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Unread 03-28-2009, 06:37 AM   #2121
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oooh, that IS nicer, thanks! Oozak has the BIG one (9 Mb, I think) with all the colors filled out on it, too.

I live the blank one at Oozak better when I get some ink..lol...but how do you find the charts on the oozak website???...I can't find any of them...I wanted to look at the big one ??...thanks

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Lynn, I noticed you mentioned:

The biggest help to me was Cjbapp's chart with actual swatches

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Here is Oozak's chart. I like it better than the one on the copic markers website because it doesn't explain the numbers on the side, so it has a bigger area to color in with your own color. I thought I'd add it here so I don't lose it. I couldn't find it the other day when I was looking to print it off again. So I hope it helps someone besides me.
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I live the blank one at Oozak better when I get some ink..lol...but how do you find the charts on the oozak website???...I can't find any of them...I wanted to look at the big one ??...thanks

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I couldn't find them either! Before, Rusty posted a link directly to them (somewhere in this giant thread!)...I did post the link to the 3 page one, right? I got that one by Googling (copic chart sketch)
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I searched this forum thread for Cjbapp and found her chart again (on her blog):
http://papercanoes.blogspot.com/sear...+chart&x=0&y=0
(bigger) http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_syUaZ6nEjg...-h/Picture.jpg
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Now I searched for posts by Rusty (oozak.com) and got the 9 pager:
http://www.oozak.com/i/cop/ex/COPIC_9_Pager.pdf
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yay! I'm glad you got them and like them! On the Versafine, it's strange but sometimes that happens to me (it bleeds) but many times it does not. Did you heat set it? That helps.

I understand being on dialup, I just went DSL this year when I enrolled dd in an online school! It does help to see the videos, but some blogs mentioned here do have photos and words...I have read both ways (light first then dark, and dark first then light), but the key is going over the juncture with the lighter color, I think. You want to use little circles from what I've read. Again, no expert here...
I'd go with a 2/3 gap rather than 3/4, unless you are going to use the tip to tip or palette techniques for blending. And, that rule does not cover all of the color groups. You are right, some of them seem to be a bigger jump than others. My feeling is what happens, is that the undertones come out more in the more saturated colors, and you don't always see them in the lighter ones. So, a pale red looks like pink but then when it's a number 6 it looks more like purple (just a hypothetical example). The biggest help to me was Cjbapp's chart with actual swatches and/or asking others if they could see a difference, as I got a few that weren't what I was expecting. In the blues, for example, I thought mine were greener than I expected until someone sent me some actual swatches, so I could see which one was closer to my desired shade.
sorry if that didn't really help! If there's something in particular you are looking for, I think the ladies and gentlemen here will try to help if they have that shade!

I second a lot of what she says. When I was first buying my copics (I started in February) I took a lot of advice from Lynn and all the others on this site. I've also read where some color light to dark and others do dark to light, I think it's a personal preference and how you can get your desired effect. I'm still practicing so I can't attest to one way or the other. I forget that I can use grays to tone down instead of a lighter color.

As for skipping shades, this is what I did: Made my first order, played with those and immediately ordered more BUT before I did, I read through the copic close enough thread and noted all similar colors mentioned, I went to a site that noted all SU color similarities and noted those. I also filled in a chart and I used all of these tools to help make my next selection. I'd go a few colors away from where I'd colored and decide if I wanted that color, was it an SU color? Was it similar to a color I already had? If it was I marked it on my chart that it was similar to XXX and then I knew/know I don't need that color right off, I can get it later if I feel I need to see for myself. When I get my markers in I color in my chart, I mark off what I don't need if I bought "similars" and then I know where to go for my next order. Does that make sense? Maybe I can pretty up my sheet and send it although I don't have my scanner hooked up to this PC and I don't have one at work anymore. Maybe I can bribe the person that took my job to do it for me. What I also did then was take the colors I had by each group (all the B's or BG's) and did a blending chart for myself. On Marianne's blog it talks of blending families, so say you are coloring grass with YG06. The shading and highlighting colors for your grass would be (in this case the colors I have) YG03 and YG11. I laid down my base color, YG06 and on one side of that I colored over it with my lighter color and on the other side with my darker color leaving some of the original color in the middle. This gives me an idea of how the colors I have blend together, or don't AND helps me again, decide what shades I need next. Does that make sense? Maybe I can get her to scan that too or I can take a picture. My DBF has my camera at his parents right now so I can't do it today.

It's a learning process for sure. I am currently reading Marianne's blog back to current posts and have started a "Copic notebook" taking notes off of it. The front of the book notes "tips" to coloring and at the back of the book I started it with color combos for coloring say hair, skin, water, skies, etc. It's just a small notebook and I keep track of what date I left off. I think I'm only in July of 08 so I've got some reading to do!!

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thanks soooo much...trying to get stamps inventoried to put up for sale, trade, etc...

THEN...going to play with my new friends...copics...hehehehe...

again thanks!
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This one prints on 3 pages, but with small areas of each color...
http://www.copicmarker.com/color_chart_sketch.pdf

For similarity, I think the wheel is helpful because you can see if they are touching (corners or right next to each other), they will be similar. I don't know if that eliminates ALL duplicates but it helps, I think, and if there's a particular one you're wondering about otherwise you could ask here or try the copic similarities thread!
I can't get my head around that wheel........it's confusing to me to try to figure out what's touching, etc. I'm sure I'm making it harder than it is. I'm doing ok without it being a reference for me so no loss to me. The wheel is overwhelming to me.
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thanks soooo much...trying to get stamps inventoried to put up for sale, trade, etc...

THEN...going to play with my new friends...copics...hehehehe...

again thanks!
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Hello Copic Lovers!

Has anyone tried to change the tips of their Copics yet? My Mom bought me my first set of Copics (gotta love Mom!) and they were the Original (square) kind. Then I bought a few on a whim and they turned out to be the Sketch (oval) kind and I LOVED them mostly because of the brush tip (the Original's have a ballpoint pen tip and a flat markerish tip). So now I'd like to convert my Original's to Sketch by adding the brush tip but I'm a little nervous.

I found the tips on a couple of different websites but I'm betting there are no instructions that come with them! LOL!

Please let me know what your experience has been like and any tips would be much appreciated!

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Has anyone tried to change the tips of their Copics yet? My Mom bought me my first set of Copics (gotta love Mom!) and they were the Original (square) kind. Then I bought a few on a whim and they turned out to be the Sketch (oval) kind and I LOVED them mostly because of the brush tip (the Original's have a ballpoint pen tip and a flat markerish tip). So now I'd like to convert my Original's to Sketch by adding the brush tip but I'm a little nervous.

I found the tips on a couple of different websites but I'm betting there are no instructions that come with them! LOL!

Please let me know what your experience has been like and any tips would be much appreciated!

Thanks!!!
I have not done it, but I did see instructions on Copics website (in the Library), so maybe that will help?
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Hello Copic Lovers!

I love SCS more and more everyday... I check into this thread daily to learn new tricks and such with my fabulous Copic markers. I was thinking I needed some new images to practice my coloring and shading on and decided to start an image swap for this reason - only to discover there are a couple swaps just like that already! LOL! I'll bet I'm the ONLY one that didn't know that, huh?

Thought I'd share for anyone looking to add fun new images to their collection - happy coloring ladies!!!
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I love SCS more and more everyday... I check into this thread daily to learn new tricks and such with my fabulous Copic markers. I was thinking I needed some new images to practice my coloring and shading on and decided to start an image swap for this reason - only to discover there are a couple swaps just like that already! LOL! I'll bet I'm the ONLY one that didn't know that, huh?

Thought I'd share for anyone looking to add fun new images to their collection - happy coloring ladies!!!

Mine is one of them, and there's still time to sign up...Here's the link
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i just posted two whiff of joy cards in my gallery if anyone is interested. They are a lot of fun with the copic markers. i only have about 2 dozen but i can see needing more. i wanted to really play with them first. the more i practice with them the more i'm learning how to use them. it takes some practice thats for sure. I just ordered 8 more
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I have also added some cards in my gallery using my Copics. Wow what a difference it is using the right paper! I am luving them now.
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what paper are you using? i still need to play around. I think it takes way less ink when you use SU paper but it seemed to blend better and take more ink on the ctmh paper i used. I am going to keep playing around with it.
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Okay, please direct me if this has already been covered but...I have sketch markers and I prefer using the brush tip. Someone mentioned to me that you store your markers, preferred tip down so it gets the ink. Now that being said, I had done that and one of my pens blobbed (too much where I couldn't use the blender pen to correct it) while I was coloring. So now I store them brush tip up. Does anyone know or where to find info? I tried searching but the search field was too broad. TIA!!

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You should take off both caps and let lay there a few minutes.. It just may need to stablize pressure...
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Okay, please direct me if this has already been covered but...I have sketch markers and I prefer using the brush tip. Someone mentioned to me that you store your markers, preferred tip down so it gets the ink. Now that being said, I had done that and one of my pens blobbed (too much where I couldn't use the blender pen to correct it) while I was coloring. So now I store them brush tip up. Does anyone know or where to find info? I tried searching but the search field was too broad. TIA!!

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Okay, please direct me if this has already been covered but...I have sketch markers and I prefer using the brush tip. Someone mentioned to me that you store your markers, preferred tip down so it gets the ink. Now that being said, I had done that and one of my pens blobbed (too much where I couldn't use the blender pen to correct it) while I was coloring. So now I store them brush tip up. Does anyone know or where to find info? I tried searching but the search field was too broad. TIA!!

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I tend to store my brush up because I like the uniformity of having that end up in my storage however, sometimes it seems a bit dry that way so I just then put it down and take the caps off both ends and let the ink stabilize.
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That is absolutely correct. I was at the Copic Certification Course last week and it was mentioned you could store them horizontal or vertical. Both are fine. If they blob, take off both caps for a few minutes and it should equalize.

The shiny paper is better if you want to use less ink. The pulpy paper uses too much ink and it will dry out your copics faster. They are of course refillable and you can buy the refills but maybe not in all places.
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Has anyone tried to change the tips of their Copics yet? My Mom bought me my first set of Copics (gotta love Mom!) and they were the Original (square) kind. Then I bought a few on a whim and they turned out to be the Sketch (oval) kind and I LOVED them mostly because of the brush tip (the Original's have a ballpoint pen tip and a flat markerish tip). So now I'd like to convert my Original's to Sketch by adding the brush tip but I'm a little nervous.

I found the tips on a couple of different websites but I'm betting there are no instructions that come with them! LOL!

Please let me know what your experience has been like and any tips would be much appreciated!

Thanks!!!
I've changed the tip in a couple of my original copics (make sure that you won't ever want to use that color for the airspraying, because you need the marker tip for that). Anyway, the tip that you can change is the marker tip - just pull and plop in the brush tip. Very easy. Note that the brush tip replacement for the original marker is a little different (shorter) than that on the sketch. The first time I did it, I just pulled it out using a paper towel. I highly recommend using tweezers (I ended up getting the copic tweezers after trying a couple of cosmetic tweezers - the smaller tips in the cosmetic tweezers can cause you to squeeze too hard and indent the marker tip). Using the tweezers will save the ink (when using the paper towel, some of the ink wicks onto the towel). I saved my marker tips (I'm a bit of a saver - "I might need it sometime"), although I haven't converted any back. HTHs.
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I am loving these markers and the more I practice the easier they are becoming. The thing i tried this week was working with my c1 grey marker. I added it over pinks and blues and it really made nice shading...try it out and let me know what you think.
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This is kind of random, but I thought it might be helpful to someone. I just found out this week that Copics color AMAZINGLY on leather! I had some scraps of leather I was using for a project. I stamped them with Memento Ink (my usual ink for Copics) and then colored them. The coloring seemed to dull or take off the memento ink a little, so I just went back over the lines with a black fine-tip marker when I was done. Here's a couple links:

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After reading all these posts and numerous others here on SCS and checking out the galleries and blogs I have finally decided I NEED Copics and took the plunge!! I placed an order at www.carpediemstore.com as they have the Sketch markers for $3.95 each now and free shipping for orders over $80 of Copics only! Super deal compared to what I've seen!! I can't wait to get them and start to play!!

Thanks to everyone for all the helpful information and you can all pat yourselves on the back for being sucessful enablers

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This is kind of random, but I thought it might be helpful to someone. I just found out this week that Copics color AMAZINGLY on leather! I had some scraps of leather I was using for a project. I stamped them with Memento Ink (my usual ink for Copics) and then colored them. The coloring seemed to dull or take off the memento ink a little, so I just went back over the lines with a black fine-tip marker when I was done. Here's a couple links:

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Wow, those are totally cool! TFS!
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I am loving these markers and the more I practice the easier they are becoming. The thing i tried this week was working with my c1 grey marker. I added it over pinks and blues and it really made nice shading...try it out and let me know what you think.
I don't have C1, but I'm thinking I need it. I've tried C2 and it doesn't work so well...it looks distinctly GRAY, rather than a shaded version of my color. That, or on darker colors, it acts like a blender and looks just weird
I find N2 to be too dark for shadowing, also...it seems darker than it should be for being a "2"!
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This is kind of random, but I thought it might be helpful to someone. I just found out this week that Copics color AMAZINGLY on leather! I had some scraps of leather I was using for a project. I stamped them with Memento Ink (my usual ink for Copics) and then colored them. The coloring seemed to dull or take off the memento ink a little, so I just went back over the lines with a black fine-tip marker when I was done. Here's a couple links:

http://www.splitcoaststampers.com/ga...&ppuser=161487
http://www.splitcoaststampers.com/ga...&ppuser=161487
Those are absolutely incredibly awesome! What a great idea. Colors look really good too.
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Hey, hoping that one of you can give me some help. I"m working on a Spring swap card that has a bunny on it that I want to be white. I checked Marianne's blog and found info on snowmen and birds, but nothing on a bunny. Anyone have any suggestions on how to shade it to still keep it white looking, but having it pop with a little color? TKS
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Hey, hoping that one of you can give me some help. I"m working on a Spring swap card that has a bunny on it that I want to be white. I checked Marianne's blog and found info on snowmen and birds, but nothing on a bunny. Anyone have any suggestions on how to shade it to still keep it white looking, but having it pop with a little color? TKS
Here is one - but its more cream or tan than white (its E-50, 51 and 53) so it might not be helpful.

Are those Jellybeans?

Maybe just use the E-50 with Blender and do a fade to white?? I really like E-50 for a creamy white. But sometimes I use W-0 and fade it to white with blender.

If you put blender down first, than add the color it will be a little lighter (but be careful because the ink travels more on the already wet paper so it can drift outside the lines).
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Here is one - but its more cream or tan than white (its E-50, 51 and 53) so it might not be helpful.

Are those Jellybeans?

Maybe just use the E-50 with Blender and do a fade to white?? I really like E-50 for a creamy white. But sometimes I use W-0 and fade it to white with blender.

If you put blender down first, than add the color it will be a little lighter (but be careful because the ink travels more on the already wet paper so it can drift outside the lines).
Thanks for your suggestion. I'm going to play a little bit more. Cute card.
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Hi, I'm pretty new to the wonderful world of Copics and was wondering if there are any Australians on here, what sort of paper you use for your colouring. I'm currently using white card stock from our local craft store (I think the brand is Basics - not 100% sure though), and I'm finding it's bleeding outside the lines a fair bit. Any suggestions for better paper would be greatly appreciated.

My other question is has anyone changed the nibs on the original markers with the "Sketch Nibs for original Marker"? I'm guessing these are the brush nibs and I would love to change mine over - have you found they work the same as the Sketch Markers?

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ARGHHHH!! I am having no luck with blending. I watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRSVM...eature=channel and did it just like she did and there is no blending. I colored and colored for what seemed like forever (definitely longer than she did) and no joy. I used gina k paper which is supposed to be the holy grail of paper for copics. It's not even blending a *little* bit. It's like a totally sharp line between the colors. UGH.

Try not to let the first color ink dry out before you blend over it with the second. If you can- work in small areas. You might have to color over it again to keep it wet. Of course that darkens everything but sometimes I have to do this if I'm working on a big area like sky.
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ARGHHHH!! I am having no luck with blending. I watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRSVM...eature=channel and did it just like she did and there is no blending. I colored and colored for what seemed like forever (definitely longer than she did) and no joy. I used gina k paper which is supposed to be the holy grail of paper for copics. It's not even blending a *little* bit. It's like a totally sharp line between the colors. UGH.
the technique she is showing works only on some papers. You will have easier/better results if you lay your light color first, then go darker, then blend back over the two with the lighter color. Do this while it is still wet. Also, lay in about twice as much dark as you want the final area because your light color will push the dark in front. HTH!
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She didn't mention what paper she used in that video but in another video she said she uses the gina k. Which is what I was using. I had tried the color light then dark then blend method and didn't have much luck with it either. I'm leaving my caps off so I can work quickly-I don't think I could do it any faster. Maybe it's the humidity? It's pretty dry in my house but not much I can do about that.
I highly doubt it's the humidity. I live in Utah, which has some of the driest weather in the country, and I don't have a problem with blending. I know that I personally don't love the gina k paper. It's nice in that it doesn't bleed through, so I use it for one-layer cards. But I find it's easier to blend on the PTI paper. The gina k paper almost doesn't absorb enough, so I end up dragging my dark color all over the image.

My technique is to lay down a light color then *gradually* build the colors up. I think the "gradually" is the key. It's MUCH harder to blend two colors that are far away in darkness (i.e. a light pink and a dark red). I usually lay out the light pink, then a slightly darker one, then a slightly darker one, then the red. That helps to make the transition and cuts down on the harsh edges, if that makes sense. I also touch the tip of my lightest pen to the darker colors and ONLY color with the lightest color. The tips of the dark colors almost never touch my page directly. I just pick up their colors with the light pen.
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I too find the Gina K 80 paper very difficult to use. I much prefer PTI.
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