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Old 03-24-2009, 06:15 PM   #2121
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Has anyone used Copics to hand-tint photos? Will they work on photos printed on regular photo paper?

I've spent the last few days reading through this thread in my spare time. Thank-you all for your great information!

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If you're interested in Copic Tutorials in video & pdf form please check out my blog and my sidebar for a list of them. I've made a bunch of tutorials using a variety of images and techniques including a Tip's video & worksheet. I made these in response to so many asking me to do them and I hope they're helpful!

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I've seen a LOT of copic tutorials and these are by far the best! You make it look so easy!
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Can someone suggest a Copic color / colors for terracotta clay pots. These pots are in a lot of the images I am using my Copics for - but so far I just haven't gotten the 'perfect' color combo.

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Here is a card that I made when I first started with copics. I was still having trouble with the blender pen and shading, but you can see the colors. I used E08 for the flowerpot.
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Hello, I have read all 50 odd pages and still need advice! Can I be an utter pain and ask for some specific information please?

I struggle with SU markers etc as they show the brushstrokes so badly, hence thinking about Copics. I don't craft tonnes as I have ill health and when i do I like stamping and colouring in alot. I think I need Sketch pens rather than the other types.

I am not naturally artistic so am hoping Copics are idiotproof to get good results and I realise I need to practice to get better skills. It's not like with the blending stups though when it takes forever just to get going is it? Can you have a shortish play and still do something nice?

I have a few concerns:

The smell-I am sensitive to smells
Re-filling, as a light use would i need to do this alot as makes expensive pens even more costly needing all the inks etc. Is it hard to refill?

Colour wise I would like:

English rose skin tones-not tanned, just pale for Sugar nellies, tilda etc. I wondered about E00, E21, R20 and E11? Do i need so many and is the barely beige too dark to blend with the others?

Pinks for flowers, dresses etc-I wondered about RV23 Pure pink and RV25 Dog Rose Flower-are these too bright as i want soft colours?

Greens for flower stalks, leaves etc-I like not green green if you see what I mean-I wondered about Willow and Olive?

Browns: I also do ALOT of animal images as I adore them especially cats and bunnies. I want lighter brown tones-not bear colour dark. What would you suggest please?

I also need some browns for brunette hair-Leanne Ellis and Gorguss girl images look great with darker hair. Would E57 Light Walnut and E59 Walnut be too dark? Are there any browns to cover hair and fur?!

I am sorry to be so lenghty and ask so much. I want to be able to blend each colour and happy to add to my collection regularly-2/3 at a time but need just a few to get started. Really I suppose no more than 10 to start-can I get 10 to cover all my wishes?!

Please can anyone advise. It's a huge ask but I don't know anyone with them to try and my LCS doesn't stock them so have to buy on the internet. I've really tried to figure it out by looking on here and visiting blogs but just need to tighten my ideas up a bit. Thank you!
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I can help you with a couple of your questions. I, too, am very sensitive to smells. I can't be around any perfumes or petroleum products, etc. and I am not bothered by the copics. If you smell them closely they smell like rubbing alcohol. I would think that if the smell of alcohol doesn't bother you these won't either. I don't notice the smell (and my family says I'm like a bloodhound) when I'm coloring with them. You might want to place a small order at first just to be sure. As to refilling you will probably only need refills on colors that you use all the time-like blue for sky or whatever you use the most. They last a long time. I agree with you about sketch. I LOVE the sketch brush tip. Good luck and have fun. I can't check on colors right now. Maybe someone else will help with that.
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I can help you with a couple of your questions. I, too, am very sensitive to smells. I can't be around any perfumes or petroleum products, etc. and I am not bothered by the copics. If you smell them closely they smell like rubbing alcohol. I would think that if the smell of alcohol doesn't bother you these won't either. I don't notice the smell (and my family says I'm like a bloodhound) when I'm coloring with them. .
Thank you for understanding! People think I'm imagining these smells but it's a nightmare-I feel really ill even if my neighbour paints. I think I may call myself a bloodhound now-nice to put a positive spin on it! Thanks so much-that's a huge relief as some craft stuff is awful-I struggle with Stazon for example alot.
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Hello, I have read all 50 odd pages and still need advice! Can I be an utter pain and ask for some specific information please?

I struggle with SU markers etc as they show the brushstrokes so badly, hence thinking about Copics. I don't craft tonnes as I have ill health and when i do I like stamping and colouring in alot. I think I need Sketch pens rather than the other types.

I am not naturally artistic so am hoping Copics are idiotproof to get good results and I realise I need to practice to get better skills. It's not like with the blending stups though when it takes forever just to get going is it? Can you have a shortish play and still do something nice?

I have a few concerns:

The smell-I am sensitive to smells
Re-filling, as a light use would i need to do this alot as makes expensive pens even more costly needing all the inks etc. Is it hard to refill?

Colour wise I would like:

English rose skin tones-not tanned, just pale for Sugar nellies, tilda etc. I wondered about E00, E21, R20 and E11? Do i need so many and is the barely beige too dark to blend with the others?

Pinks for flowers, dresses etc-I wondered about RV23 Pure pink and RV25 Dog Rose Flower-are these too bright as i want soft colours?

Greens for flower stalks, leaves etc-I like not green green if you see what I mean-I wondered about Willow and Olive?

Browns: I also do ALOT of animal images as I adore them especially cats and bunnies. I want lighter brown tones-not bear colour dark. What would you suggest please?

I also need some browns for brunette hair-Leanne Ellis and Gorguss girl images look great with darker hair. Would E57 Light Walnut and E59 Walnut be too dark? Are there any browns to cover hair and fur?!

I am sorry to be so lenghty and ask so much. I want to be able to blend each colour and happy to add to my collection regularly-2/3 at a time but need just a few to get started. Really I suppose no more than 10 to start-can I get 10 to cover all my wishes?!

Please can anyone advise. It's a huge ask but I don't know anyone with them to try and my LCS doesn't stock them so have to buy on the internet. I've really tried to figure it out by looking on here and visiting blogs but just need to tighten my ideas up a bit. Thank you!
I'm not too sensitive to smells but I can't work with Gamsol - it triggers migraines for me so I understand somewhat.

Try the previously listed blog http://www.scrapbitz.blogspot.com/ because she has some tutorials video and pdf that have colour combinations etc and these might help you narrow down your choices.

On the face of it I think the Walnut might be too dark for overall hair colour but could be good as a "low light" in hair.
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I've spent the last few days reading through this thread in my spare time. Thank-you all for your great information!

Cindy
I haven't tried it but Copics are not acid free until they dry, so I wouldn't do it on ones you want to keep. For a card it might be fine. Don't know why it WOULDN'T work. I've used StaZon and distress inks on my photos before.
As for the regular paper, you'll probably just have to try it because it will depend on your printer...
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Cute sunflower card - and the terracotta color you used looks 'spot on' -

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Hello, I have read all 50 odd pages and still need advice! Can I be an utter pain and ask for some specific information please?

I struggle with SU markers etc as they show the brushstrokes so badly, hence thinking about Copics. I don't craft tonnes as I have ill health and when i do I like stamping and colouring in alot. I think I need Sketch pens rather than the other types.

I am not naturally artistic so am hoping Copics are idiotproof to get good results and I realise I need to practice to get better skills. It's not like with the blending stups though when it takes forever just to get going is it? Can you have a shortish play and still do something nice?

I have a few concerns:

The smell-I am sensitive to smells
Re-filling, as a light use would i need to do this alot as makes expensive pens even more costly needing all the inks etc. Is it hard to refill?

Colour wise I would like:

English rose skin tones-not tanned, just pale for Sugar nellies, tilda etc. I wondered about E00, E21, R20 and E11? Do i need so many and is the barely beige too dark to blend with the others?

Pinks for flowers, dresses etc-I wondered about RV23 Pure pink and RV25 Dog Rose Flower-are these too bright as i want soft colours?

Greens for flower stalks, leaves etc-I like not green green if you see what I mean-I wondered about Willow and Olive?

Browns: I also do ALOT of animal images as I adore them especially cats and bunnies. I want lighter brown tones-not bear colour dark. What would you suggest please?

I also need some browns for brunette hair-Leanne Ellis and Gorguss girl images look great with darker hair. Would E57 Light Walnut and E59 Walnut be too dark? Are there any browns to cover hair and fur?!

I am sorry to be so lenghty and ask so much. I want to be able to blend each colour and happy to add to my collection regularly-2/3 at a time but need just a few to get started. Really I suppose no more than 10 to start-can I get 10 to cover all my wishes?!

Please can anyone advise. It's a huge ask but I don't know anyone with them to try and my LCS doesn't stock them so have to buy on the internet. I've really tried to figure it out by looking on here and visiting blogs but just need to tighten my ideas up a bit. Thank you!
Just putting my meager 2 cents in, as I am by no means an expert! But, I DID find a learning curve with Copics. But if you are already used to blending with the Gamsol, it may be similar and not as hard for you to learn. The tutorials helped a LOT! I dont' see any difference between Sketch and Ciao, besides the shape & size, so if you want more markers for the money you might consider Ciao. I personally like the originals, also, for tiny spaces (there is a smaller tip) so it depends on what you are doing.

As for the colors, I don't know all the names of the markers. For browns, the darkest I have is E25 & E27 (like Chocolate Chip), and I like those colors for hair and fur. I haven't tried the ones you mentioned. I like to add a touch of yellow (Y21, for example) in hair, or a touch of red (R89) blended with the brown first (on a palette)--it's too stark to add directly, to me. I have E08 on my wish list, though!
For skin, I have blended E11 with E00 no problem. In fact, I like it better because it isn't quite as PINK.
For olive-y greens there was a blog in this thread that listed her foliage colors and I went by that and love it! It was YG93, YG95, YG97 and YG99, along with YG03 (which is significantly brighter but adds a nice tone with the other greens)
I haven't tried those pinks, but I do have a hard time finding a soft pink that isn't also too "purple-y." I end up using R20 a lot...I'll see if I can find a photo for you to see it!

10 Copics will probably not get you ALL of these scenarios, so you might have to pick your most important ones first (skin/hair for example). You REALLY need several shades in order to get the nice blending, especially if you are looking for "idiot proof" LOL
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Thank you for all the advice Lynn. You raised a good point. If i'm not going to use them tonnes maybe I should get the ciao. i'll never be able to afford to buys lots-say 100 or so, so maybe the limited colour in ciao wouldn't matter. the inks the same in each, just need to check if the ciao nibs are Ok.

I wonder if that's the way.I can get more then quicker and as I'll be forever an amateur maybe Ciao are for me?

I read on people's blogs that they use all three kinds so if i decide i really love them i can switch over to the Sketch anyway, but I can't see me ever using the spray and maybe the Ciao offer me better value and a better way of trying Copics per se?

Lynn you've made me think and I think I'll try the Ciao first at least. I can get a few and see, thanks for the colour comments too. I see that you need at least 3 to blend though still not certain how near they need to be in numbers say if you get A11, do you then get A12 and A13 or jump the 2/3 numbers I've read about? Sometimes say A11 is very pale and A14 seems alot different and you can't imagine blending them. The E11 scares me as it looks dark but i've read it used many times for skin so will reply on expert advice! If they do these in the Ciao of course-off to have a look.

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I'm kind of a newbie to Copics myself, this is just my opinion. I love RV21, RV23 AND RV25, but I think they are kind of bright and I'm not sure they'll be soft enough for you (since you said you wanted soft pinks). I used them in this Kimono (with a few other pinks)
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I'm pretty sure they are the pinks I used on the sashe and end of the sleeves.
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Has anyone seen a place on the web that shows which copic colors match more popular DP's?
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So did I, thanks for the tutorials. Very helpful.
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Very nice!
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[QUOTE=suzannejdean;13529162]If you're interested in Copic Tutorials in video & pdf form please check out my blog and my sidebar for a list of them. I've made a bunch of tutorials using a variety of images and techniques including a Tip's video & worksheet. I made these in response to so many asking me to do them and I hope they're helpful!

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Thanks so much! Your tutorials are chocked full with helpful hints! Thanks for sharing!
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Here is a card that I made when I first started with copics. I was still having trouble with the blender pen and shading, but you can see the colors. I used E08 for the flowerpot.

Your card is wonderful!
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The tips on the Ciao are exactly the same as the Sketch, and you can always mix them up, too. I have some of each kind! May not work for your storage, but otherwise I'd get the Ciao if they have the colors you want, and the Sketch if not. Oh, the other thing is the name of the color isn't on the cap for the Ciaos, so if that is important to you, you may want the Sketch. For me, I'd rather have more of them!
As for blending, you want the last numbers to be 2 or 3 apart. This doesn't ALWAYS work, though, but USUALLY. You can't go by how they look on the screen, though...check out CJBapp's chart (somewhere in this thread and on her blog), where you can see how the actual swatches looked on her paper (to compare them to each other).
E11 is definitely not that dark...in fact, with E00 it's even hard to see a whole lot of difference (at least on my paper, which is GP).
I couldn't find a photo where I used R20 but I'll see if I have one on my computer I can upload...
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Thank you for all the advice Lynn. You raised a good point. If i'm not going to use them tonnes maybe I should get the ciao. i'll never be able to afford to buys lots-say 100 or so, so maybe the limited colour in ciao wouldn't matter. the inks the same in each, just need to check if the ciao nibs are Ok.

I wonder if that's the way.I can get more then quicker and as I'll be forever an amateur maybe Ciao are for me?

I read on people's blogs that they use all three kinds so if i decide i really love them i can switch over to the Sketch anyway, but I can't see me ever using the spray and maybe the Ciao offer me better value and a better way of trying Copics per se?

Lynn you've made me think and I think I'll try the Ciao first at least. I can get a few and see, thanks for the colour comments too. I see that you need at least 3 to blend though still not certain how near they need to be in numbers say if you get A11, do you then get A12 and A13 or jump the 2/3 numbers I've read about? Sometimes say A11 is very pale and A14 seems alot different and you can't imagine blending them. The E11 scares me as it looks dark but i've read it used many times for skin so will reply on expert advice! If they do these in the Ciao of course-off to have a look.

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One quick question, if I might. I understand the difference in the warm and cool grays, that makes sense to me. But what, pray tell, are neutral and toner gray?

I was looking at the color wheel and trying to figure out what markers to get next (it's a sickness I tell ya) and noticed for the first time, all the grays. I don't have any of them and figured that maybe I should think about it. It is just so hard to think about getting 'GRAY' when all the colors are so pretty and gray is so... not.

I just bought 8 more at HL tonight, to give me a grand total of 20 (yeah!!!). This is probably my last purchase until next month, but it is never to soon to start planning.


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One quick question, if I might. I understand the difference in the warm and cool grays, that makes sense to me. But what, pray tell, are neutral and toner gray?

I was looking at the color wheel and trying to figure out what markers to get next (it's a sickness I tell ya) and noticed for the first time, all the grays. I don't have any of them and figured that maybe I should think about it. It is just so hard to think about getting 'GRAY' when all the colors are so pretty and gray is so... not.
You do actually need some grays (And no, I am not being an enabler here! Well, I hope not; they will stretch what you have already). They are not as satisfying as colors, but you will use them a ton. Since you can shop at a HL, you can swipe them, which is an advantage. Marianne posted links to her "why do I need grays" blog posts earlier in this thread, and I cannot hope to say anything even remotely as good. Short answer, though, is that you will want a light gray--at the very least-- to do shadows around your images and to use to make a single color turn into that color and a shadow so you can shade. I have Ws, Cs and Ns. I do not feel I need any Ts (cross btwn N and W) but that is just me. If I was getting just 2, I personally vote for the N1 and N3, but that's my opinion. The theory is that you use the Ws to shade warm tones and the Cs for cool tones, and then you would use a range of greys for black objects, as opposed to using black. I find the Ns work with most anything, so they are a good bet, and I almost always use them around my images. I suggest you do lines of various colors that you already have on good coloring paper and bring them to the HL and run some samples across, and then do them by themselves so you can ponder what works best with what you have. I don't recall off the top of my head what grays are at the HL...

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i don't think i'm going to find a copic certification class anywhere near me anytime soon. but i would still love to go to a stamp store for a class. i'm in central illinois. anyone know of any in say....st. louis, peoria, champaign, or bloomington?
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i don't think i'm going to find a copic certification class anywhere near me anytime soon. but i would still love to go to a stamp store for a class. i'm in central illinois. anyone know of any in say....st. louis, peoria, champaign, or bloomington?
Ditto here too. I'm in Houston and I've never heard of a class down this way. I'd love to go to one whether it's certification or not.
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Old 03-26-2009, 05:30 AM   #2146
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Thank you so much for you help in assistaing me to start off with some Copics. I've ordered a few-mostly Ciao but some sketch where no Ciao or out of stock.

So far I've ordered
Blender
RV10 pale pink
RV11
RV13 tender pink
RV20 Blush
E00 Skin
E47 dark brown (for hair but not sure if this is right?)
YG06

I also think i'll order
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E21
E31
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Y00
Y11
Yg03

Should that keep me going for a while? I think I've got skin, blonde hair, animals, pink flowers and dresses covered and flower stalks and leaves. Still struggling with dark coloured hair-dark brown preferable to black. Will the dark brown suffice or should I get the bark or something else. Someone mentioned using greys for black hair-how can greys not be grey hair? I don't understand. I so appreciate your help-sorry to be a pain with all this!
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I'm kind of a newbie to Copics myself, this is just my opinion. I love RV21, RV23 AND RV25, but I think they are kind of bright and I'm not sure they'll be soft enough for you (since you said you wanted soft pinks). I used them in this Kimono (with a few other pinks)
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Here is a card that I made when I first started with copics. I was still having trouble with the blender pen and shading, but you can see the colors. I used E08 for the flowerpot.
Love your sunflowers. Your shading looks great!
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Me too...I've inquired about classes in Dallas and they've put it on the list but not sure when they will get to it.
That's good to know that at least they did that. I'd gladly come up to Dallas for a class.
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If you're interested in Copic Tutorials in video & pdf form please check out my blog and my sidebar for a list of them. I've made a bunch of tutorials using a variety of images and techniques including a Tip's video & worksheet. I made these in response to so many asking me to do them and I hope they're helpful!

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This is great. Thanks. I've added you to my favorites and will check them all out when I get home and can print out the hard copies. I need all the help i can get.
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Thank you so much for you help in assistaing me to start off with some Copics. I've ordered a few-mostly Ciao but some sketch where no Ciao or out of stock.

So far I've ordered
Blender
RV10 pale pink
RV11
RV13 tender pink
RV20 Blush
E00 Skin
E47 dark brown (for hair but not sure if this is right?)
YG06

I also think i'll order
E11
E21
E31
E43
RV02
Y00
Y11
Yg03

Should that keep me going for a while? I think I've got skin, blonde hair, animals, pink flowers and dresses covered and flower stalks and leaves. Still struggling with dark coloured hair-dark brown preferable to black. Will the dark brown suffice or should I get the bark or something else. Someone mentioned using greys for black hair-how can greys not be grey hair? I don't understand. I so appreciate your help-sorry to be a pain with all this!
The grays help you to shade the color you've already laid down, it won't look gray if it's on top of another color, if that makes sense?
I don't see blonde hair in your list? Y00 is almost fluorescent, IMO; nice for a highlight but by itself will look unnatural.
Also, you may want E02 to blend with your skin and a darker YG for foliage (YG03 is quite bright).
You've got several browns that have different FIRST numbers--realize, that means that they are different shades. For blending, you want the SECOND number to be 2 or 3 apart.
The RV's are a little purplish...if you check out my post a few pages back, of Patricia Birthdaycake (fairy blowing out candles on a cake), that's the colors I used on her.
The only other thing I'd say is err on the side of lighter rather than darker. I wish I had MORE light colors!

anyone else have thoughts on this? I am just giving my inexperienced opinion!
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Thank you so much for you help in assistaing me to start off with some Copics. I've ordered a few-mostly Ciao but some sketch where no Ciao or out of stock.

So far I've ordered
Blender
RV10 pale pink
RV11
RV13 tender pink
RV20 Blush
E00 Skin
E47 dark brown (for hair but not sure if this is right?)
YG06

I also think i'll order
E11
E21
E31
E43
RV02
Y00
Y11
Yg03

Should that keep me going for a while? I think I've got skin, blonde hair, animals, pink flowers and dresses covered and flower stalks and leaves. Still struggling with dark coloured hair-dark brown preferable to black. Will the dark brown suffice or should I get the bark or something else. Someone mentioned using greys for black hair-how can greys not be grey hair? I don't understand. I so appreciate your help-sorry to be a pain with all this!

I actually made a card where my angel has black hair, but it was made with a few of my Cool Gray Copics. It's mainly just an illusion of black, not actually using the colour black. Here is the link, or I have attached a photo of it: http://www.splitcoaststampers.com/ga...0&ppuser=95536

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anyone been to a copics class at the inkspot in kirkswood, mo? they just had a class this past tuesday but website says they will do extra classes if you contact them with a grou of at least 4 people! i have 5 people right here in town wanting a class so i think we could work this out. any info on this place?
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I actually made a card where my angel has black hair, but it was made with a few of my Cool Gray Copics. It's mainly just an illusion of black, not actually using the colour black. Here is the link, or I have attached a photo of it: http://www.splitcoaststampers.com/ga...0&ppuser=95536

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Well done! and Exactly! Black is never Black there are tones in it. I have a mouse next to me that is black but there are actually very few areas on it that are a black color to color - it is all shades of dark and light grays.
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The grays help you to shade the color you've already laid down, it won't look gray if it's on top of another color, if that makes sense?
I don't see blonde hair in your list? Y00 is almost fluorescent, IMO; nice for a highlight but by itself will look unnatural.
Also, you may want E02 to blend with your skin and a darker YG for foliage (YG03 is quite bright).
You've got several browns that have different FIRST numbers--realize, that means that they are different shades. For blending, you want the SECOND number to be 2 or 3 apart.
The RV's are a little purplish...if you check out my post a few pages back, of Patricia Birthdaycake (fairy blowing out candles on a cake), that's the colors I used on her.
The only other thing I'd say is err on the side of lighter rather than darker. I wish I had MORE light colors!

anyone else have thoughts on this? I am just giving my inexperienced opinion!
Thank you again! I've basically found some blogs and seen their work and copied the numbers. I found a blog with lots of Penny Black animal stamps and Tildas which is where my stamping interest lies and these numbers-the yellows and browns are what they stated are used for skin and various blonde hair. The problem is no blog I've found says I did Tildas hair in numbers blah blah blah and then her skin in xyz. I'm really struggling when I can't actually see the colours-on blogs they look really different to the swatches. What I think I'm understanding is that you can use a very light colour say beigey and by adding layers of it it will go alot darker-so not to buy a dark colour as they lighter ones will provide the darkness when layered? Is that right?

Maybe I'll stick with the first order and see when it arrives. to be honest I'm not sure I have any suitable ink and card. The inks suggested aren't easy to obtain in the UK. papertrey card ditto. Will versamark ink work and whisper white SU card?

Gosh, this is hard work, when will I get to the fun bit?! Thank you for bearing with me-I know I'm heavily reliant here but with no experience, no access to copics, no brain it feels, I'm trying to work through this and stay determined but it's hard when blogs state maybe 10 different E's were used!

Am i totally wrong with everything I've stated-will the first lot that I've ordered get me anywhere and what should I get for blonde hair and dark hair-what colour do i use grey over for it to create dark and not grey hair.

Sorry, sorry, sorry about this!
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I am giving you the link to Marianne's blog. http://www.ilikemarkers.blogspot.com On it she explains which inks to use, which papers will and won't work, how to blend, which markers to use for skin, hair, etc. She works for Copic and her blog has been a great help to me. I've been reading along since she started the blog and it would help you to start at the very first and skim through to find the articles that you want to read. She builds on what she has already taught, so you need to go back to the very beginning and start from there. There will be some articles that don't apply to what you're doing and you can skip those. It's a little overwhelming at first, but once you get the right paper and ink you'll have a great time! She lists several brands that will work, and so maybe you will have access to at least one of them. Here is another link that explains another blending technique that requires less markers. http://www.kiyomikrafts.com/kiyomi/2...opics-101.html Good luck!
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Thank you again! I've basically found some blogs and seen their work and copied the numbers. I found a blog with lots of Penny Black animal stamps and Tildas which is where my stamping interest lies and these numbers-the yellows and browns are what they stated are used for skin and various blonde hair. The problem is no blog I've found says I did Tildas hair in numbers blah blah blah and then her skin in xyz. I'm really struggling when I can't actually see the colours-on blogs they look really different to the swatches. What I think I'm understanding is that you can use a very light colour say beigey and by adding layers of it it will go alot darker-so not to buy a dark colour as they lighter ones will provide the darkness when layered? Is that right?

Maybe I'll stick with the first order and see when it arrives. to be honest I'm not sure I have any suitable ink and card. The inks suggested aren't easy to obtain in the UK. papertrey card ditto. Will versamark ink work and whisper white SU card?

Gosh, this is hard work, when will I get to the fun bit?! Thank you for bearing with me-I know I'm heavily reliant here but with no experience, no access to copics, no brain it feels, I'm trying to work through this and stay determined but it's hard when blogs state maybe 10 different E's were used!

Am i totally wrong with everything I've stated-will the first lot that I've ordered get me anywhere and what should I get for blonde hair and dark hair-what colour do i use grey over for it to create dark and not grey hair.

Sorry, sorry, sorry about this!
Ok I have a picture attached where I used R20 along with R27 and R29 on her shirt. Hope that helps!
I know I used E25 and E27 on the dog, but I also went over it with a yellow for highlights, and I think E33 for a lighter brown.
Some of these are Prismacolor markers (the greens in this one, for example). Where I wasn't particular about the shade I got some Prismacolors.

You do get some darker shade by going over it with the same marker, but it's not as noticeable as having a darker marker would be. You don't need 10 different shades, but 2 at least, maybe 3, really helps. On the blogs where they mention 10 different E's, they are probably coloring different things with them. Like in this photo, the fence is a different set of browns than the dog.
You can also use a light gray (last number 1 or 2) to shade a color darker. There is a tutorial on ilikemarkers that shows exactly how something would look. It changes the color a tad, and makes it look shaded. Actually, I did this on the fence--I don't know if you can see it, but it's slightly darker where she's sitting, where the crosspieces join, etc.--I used a warm gray there (I think in this case it was a 4 because the brown was dark already)

For hair, I read another thread and Julie made some suggestions, and that's what I bought: Y21 plus YR21 for blonde, E25 plus E27 for brown, with a red for highlights. If you look back at my previous posts in this thread, you'll see those colors used.

Finally, for the ink and paper you'll just have to try it. SU WW doesn't work that well though (hard to blend) but there are plenty of other papers that do work. I haven't tried Versamark, but do you mean Versafine Archival Onyx Black? If so, that does work as long as you heat set it or let it dry a long time first.
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I actually made a card where my angel has black hair, but it was made with a few of my Cool Gray Copics. It's mainly just an illusion of black, not actually using the colour black. Here is the link, or I have attached a photo of it: http://www.splitcoaststampers.com/ga...0&ppuser=95536

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This is gorgeous, thanks for sharing...how dark of a gray did you use?
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Well done! and Exactly! Black is never Black there are tones in it. I have a mouse next to me that is black but there are actually very few areas on it that are a black color to color - it is all shades of dark and light grays.
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