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Old 11-15-2008, 03:24 PM   #401
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I just got my BS yesterday, and it almost seems like the sandwich for the Bigz dies is too thick with just the cutting plates and the die??? I already found that for some sizzlets I had to go down a tab on the MPP. Maybe the opening on my machine is a bit thinner than most? When I run a sandwich with a Bigz through it almost tries to kick it back out. Help!
All the sandwich stacks you need are clearly marked on your Mulitpurpose Platform.

Bigz, Originals and Bigz XL Dies are as follows

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It's all clearly marked on your MPP( Multipurpose Platform)

I also have a .pdf File in the Very first post in this thread with all the sandwich stacks for all the dies on the market (Quickutz, Cuttlebug, Nestabilities and so forth)

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I read the .PDFs and that is the exact sandwich I'm using, but it still seems too thick. The cutting pads are older - my bigshot has a sticker on the bottom which makes it seem like it was just sitting in the warehouse for two years. I have to go to Joanns tomorrow - maybe I should pick up a new set of cutting pads?
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I read the .PDFs and that is the exact sandwich I'm using, but it still seems too thick. The cutting pads are older - my bigshot has a sticker on the bottom which makes it seem like it was just sitting in the warehouse for two years. I have to go to Joanns tomorrow - maybe I should pick up a new set of cutting pads?
Do you mean there is a sticker on the bottom of the platform where you build your sandwich? Or did you mean there is a sticker on the underside of the machine?

If your cutting pads are really bowed then it might be time to replace them.

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Can anyone tell me the correct sandwich to cut the top note die with the cuttlebug? I have some customers that won't/can't buy a new die machine but would like to use their cuttlebug with this die.
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Should just be (from the bottom up)

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The only drawback to using the Bigz in a Bug (oh, that sounds cute!) is that they are *very* hard on the plates. I always had much more breakage than with smaller dies. Like every 20 cuts or so.
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Are the spacer platform and the multipurpose platform the same thing? I'm considering purchasing a Big Shot and I'm still trying to figure all this out. Thanks!
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Should just be (from the bottom up)

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Top Note (face up)
cardstock/material
B plate

The only drawback to using the Bigz in a Bug (oh, that sounds cute!) is that they are *very* hard on the plates. I always had much more breakage than with smaller dies. Like every 20 cuts or so.
That is what I used Amy and it worked great except for one of the flaps was just about cut through. It was still useable but I though it shouldn't do that. I tried 3 times and every time the same thing. Any suggestions??
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Sorry I should explain I was using the scalloped envelope not the top note.
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That die is tricksy that way. In the Big Shot, we turn it 90 degrees, but I don't know if it will still fit thru a Bug that way.

You would have to make your stack "less thick." Instead of the top B plate, you can use the Crease Pad--it's too wide for the Bug, so you'll need to trim it down.
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Are the spacer platform and the multipurpose platform the same thing? I'm considering purchasing a Big Shot and I'm still trying to figure all this out. Thanks!
The Big Shot Machine comes with a Multipurpose Platform that is made up of
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Each Tab lists different sandwich stacks for all the different dies with the Big Shot.

The only dies that do not need an MPP are
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The Decorative Strip Dies use an Extended Spacer Plate and Cutting Pads

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Can anyone tell me the correct sandwich to cut the top note die with the cuttlebug? I have some customers that won't/can't buy a new die machine but would like to use their cuttlebug with this die.
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You can find lots of useful information on this in the Cuttlebug FAQ thread as well. It's a sticky at the top of the Tool & Product Talk Forums.

Also this blog Indigo Inklings has a wealth of photos and information about sizzix and cuttlebug combinations.

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I'm looking at the two Big Shots at Costco. I'm just very confused! Could you please tell me if they both have everything I need to get started? Which one would you get? Thanks!
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I'm looking at the two Big Shots at Costco. I'm just very confused! Could you please tell me if they both have everything I need to get started? Which one would you get? Thanks!
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i wonder if the "spacer platform" on the teal one is different than the "multipurpose platform" that is with the black one. the SU ones come with the multipurpose platform which is what allows the machine to work with all dies.

not sure if that helps.
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i wonder if the "spacer platform" on the teal one is different than the "multipurpose platform" that is with the black one. the SU ones come with the multipurpose platform which is what allows the machine to work with all dies.

not sure if that helps.
The platform is what you need but it is not tabbed like the SU! one is so I think that it is harder to make the sandwiches. I am not positive I do not have one but my mom bought this one and she is happy with it. I will buy the SU one but have not been able to do that yet. You can use all of the big shot dies with it the way it comes I am just not sure about everyone else's someone else may be able to help more.
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The Spacer Platform that comes with the Teal and Black version of the Big Shot doesn't have Tabs like the Pink & Black and Stampin' Up! Black version.

You can purchase the MPP separately to use with the Teal and Black version.

All of the sandwich stacks would remain the same. The only difference between these machines is cosmetic

In other words no matter what "color" your Big Shot is it's still going to process sandwiches the same way.

ETA the Tabs on the updated versions of Big Shot (Stampin Up and Pink & Black) act as "shim" to help your sandwiches work more smoothly when you roll them through the Machine.
If you have a Teal and Black version you can easily buy the MPP and you'd be set.

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Thanks so much! This helps!
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The only read difference is the the Big Shot Express needs to be plugged in and you have to hold the button down once you have loaded your sandwich in the machine to run it through.

All the sandwich stacks will still be the same. Best for those who don't have the strength to roll the handle themselves



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Hi Alicia, I was wondering if you could answer a question for me.

I bought another new pair of cutting pads because like I said I warped out the last new pair before I came here for help. I had the idea to change the sandwich but need to know if it is an ok way to do it.

I thought to put one cutting pad on the bottom, then the MPP with the plain side face up (so it's basically the back of the MPP), then my Nestie, blade up, then paper, then my second cutting pad. Then store the top cutting pad under something heavy so it doesn't warp. I thought this way maybe only one plate would warp at a time and I wouldn't go through as many plates. But I don't want to do it if it is going to ruin my machine or something. I just use my nesties SO much. I did notice my plates don't warp when I am using my sizzix bigz or originals, it seems to be mostly when I'm using my wafer-thin dies.

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I'm not Alicia, but one way to help alleviate the warping is to turn it over each time you use it - basically using both sides to cut. I suppose you could store it under something heavy to keep it flat, but if you are like me, I'd forget where I put it and then I'd be looking all over the place for it...lol
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Thanks! Yeah I keep flipping them and everything but I warped the last set really bad in 2 months. They are nearly impossible to use now so I got another new set and I'm hoping I don't ruin this set as fast.

Well yeah the one problem with putting it under something heavy is remember where I put it. I might have to get one of those little alarm thingies. LOL. Press the button and follow the bleep bleep!
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lol...that or a BIG STICKY NOTE....I've gotten to the point that I tell my husband where I put things so he can help me remember. hehe

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Thanks! Yeah I keep flipping them and everything but I warped the last set really bad in 2 months. They are nearly impossible to use now so I got another new set and I'm hoping I don't ruin this set as fast.

Well yeah the one problem with putting it under something heavy is remember where I put it. I might have to get one of those little alarm thingies. LOL. Press the button and follow the bleep bleep!
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Is there a gallery that list projects from the big shot. I'm looking for some examples of the photo book using the big scallops. Thanks
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If you go to the gallery and type in either BigShot or Big Shot that will pull up anything with those words as Keywords

Or try a search for Big Shot Scallop Circle and see if that gives you any hits.

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Hi Alicia, I was wondering if you could answer a question for me.

I bought another new pair of cutting pads because like I said I warped out the last new pair before I came here for help. I had the idea to change the sandwich but need to know if it is an ok way to do it.

I thought to put one cutting pad on the bottom, then the MPP with the plain side face up (so it's basically the back of the MPP), then my Nestie, blade up, then paper, then my second cutting pad. Then store the top cutting pad under something heavy so it doesn't warp. I thought this way maybe only one plate would warp at a time and I wouldn't go through as many plates. But I don't want to do it if it is going to ruin my machine or something. I just use my nesties SO much. I did notice my plates don't warp when I am using my sizzix bigz or originals, it seems to be mostly when I'm using my wafer-thin dies.

Thanks so much!
Hey I'm sorry I couldn't respond sooner!

I would be leary of placing anything directly on the MPP even if it's upside down because you risk cutting into it or having the dies "press" into it which could ruin it. I use the magnetic placement mat sandwich with my nesties so they never rest on the MPP directly.

I only use the same plate when I am cutting anything and I constantly flip it. I mark my plates CUT and EMBOSS so that I always reach for the correct one for my sandwiches.

I also try and place my dies so that they are not always in the middle of the plate. This decreases the chance that your plates will bow because all the cuts won't be in the center.

I store my plates in my big shot as follows MPP on bottom and 2 cutting pads on top. This way the machine exerts pressure on them over night to keep the bowing down to a minimum. I haven't had any problems with my machine after storing them this way and I can always find them because they are inside the machine.

I hope this helps you!

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Hey I'm sorry I couldn't respond sooner!

I would be leary of placing anything directly on the MPP even if it's upside down because you risk cutting into it or having the dies "press" into it which could ruin it.

I only use the same plate when I am cutting anything and I constantly flip it. I mark my plates CUT and EMBOSS so that I always reach for the correct one for my sandwiches.

I also try and place my dies so that they are not always in the middle of the plate. This decreases the chance that your plates will bow because all the cuts won't be in the center.

I store my plates in my big shot as follows MPP on bottom and 2 cutting pads on top. This way the machine exerts pressure on them over night to keep the bowing down to a minimum. I haven't had any problems with my machine after storing them this way and I can always find them because they are inside the machine.

I hope this helps you!

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The instructions I have (not sure where I got them) say to put the die cutting edge up right on the MPP. I have been doing that but am nervous so after reading what you do, I think I will start using one plate below the die. I think I saw it on that inky something blog. Indigo something.
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Jay at Indigo Inklings just posted some Big Shot Basics. Really useful basic info with pictures.
Thanks for this post. I have some little quickkutz emboss dies I purchased and now I can use them. I keep looking for ways to emboss. I don't have the rubber pad yet because I was waiting to see if we would get an emboss pad in the next catalog.
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Hey I'm sorry I couldn't respond sooner!

I would be leary of placing anything directly on the MPP even if it's upside down because you risk cutting into it or having the dies "press" into it which could ruin it.

I only use the same plate when I am cutting anything and I constantly flip it. I mark my plates CUT and EMBOSS so that I always reach for the correct one for my sandwiches.

I also try and place my dies so that they are not always in the middle of the plate. This decreases the chance that your plates will bow because all the cuts won't be in the center.

I store my plates in my big shot as follows MPP on bottom and 2 cutting pads on top. This way the machine exerts pressure on them over night to keep the bowing down to a minimum. I haven't had any problems with my machine after storing them this way and I can always find them because they are inside the machine.

I hope this helps you!

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Speaking of placing anything directly on the cutting pad, I noticed the other day in the Big Shot Sandwich recipe PDF in the first post that for Spellbinders Dies without Magnetic Placement Pad, it says to put the die on the MPP, then cardstock, then 2 cutting pads... Is that still correct? I was looking at the recipes b/c I'm thinking about getting Nesties and wanted to make sure I didn't need to buy anything special to run them through the big shot. Thanks!
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Thanks Alicia, I appreciate it!
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Speaking of placing anything directly on the cutting pad, I noticed the other day in the Big Shot Sandwich recipe PDF in the first post that for Spellbinders Dies without Magnetic Placement Pad, it says to put the die on the MPP, then cardstock, then 2 cutting pads... Is that still correct? I was looking at the recipes b/c I'm thinking about getting Nesties and wanted to make sure I didn't need to buy anything special to run them through the big shot. Thanks!
I copied that sandwich stack from the spellbinders website but I have always put my sandwich as follows when using my nesties in the big shot

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Roll through big shot

This sandwich works just fine but you might have better luck using the "spellbinders" recommended sandwich stack list.
There is no "perfect" sandwich because each machine will be different. Some people will need to shim others won't.

Example: You can run the cuttlebug embossing folders on Tab 1 or on No Tab. It's all a matter of preference and what works for you.

These lists are merely guidelines to follow so nothing is set in stone.

I'm updating the .pdf file in the first post to reflect this. When I'm finished I'll repost in in the first post in this thread.

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I am having a little trouble with my birds and blooms (basket) die. I made the sandwich
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I tried the crease pad - too short and didn't want to go through
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The problem I am having is that as I have seen mentioned here the score gets cut a little too much and it wants to cut instead of scoring. I thought I read to add the crease pad to stop it from cutting the score and to make the score. The full sandwich with the crease pad didn't want to go through and of course the crease pad ordered from SU was not as long as the extended cutting pad nor the die. What should I try now or should I have just kept going and made it go through?
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:57 PM   #433
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You would use the crease pad *instead* of the top cutting pad. As you found out, it won't go thru with both!
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Amy, please forgive me for being "slow" but
then the sandwich would be
extended cutting pad
die metal face up
cardstock
crease pad

would that cut up the crease pad and what about the crease pad not being as long as the die? Wouldn't that hurt the big shot?

I know this is not as hard as I am making it but .......... I can't seem to help it.
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OH, not slow!

Yes, that's the right sandwich, I believe. Alicia I'm sure would have some fantastic advice here. It does cut into (but not through) the crease pad.

As far as the crease pad being too short, I honestly don't have an answer. I have used my Baskets and Blooms die probably 100 times, and I've never had it cut on the creases! I just use my plates, not the crease pad.

Are you cutting cardstock or DSP? One thickness? Usually my score lines turn into score "cuts" when I try to cut too many thicknesses.
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Iwas just cutting one sheet of dsp. Do you have the same die? I really want to get this figured out for wedding party favor baskets with sunflowers attached. I will need to make about 110 of them. Yikes!
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On the spots where there is no crease pad, would there be enough pressure to hurt the machine? I'm wondering this too. If they're going to have XL dies that require the crease pad then they need that same size crease pad.
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What about a second crease pad???
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Amy, please forgive me for being "slow" but
then the sandwich would be
extended cutting pad
die metal face up
cardstock
crease pad

would that cut up the crease pad and what about the crease pad not being as long as the die? Wouldn't that hurt the big shot?

I know this is not as hard as I am making it but .......... I can't seem to help it.
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OH, not slow!

Yes, that's the right sandwich, I believe. Alicia I'm sure would have some fantastic advice here. It does cut into (but not through) the crease pad.

As far as the crease pad being too short, I honestly don't have an answer. I have used my Baskets and Blooms die probably 100 times, and I've never had it cut on the creases! I just use my plates, not the crease pad.

Are you cutting cardstock or DSP? One thickness? Usually my score lines turn into score "cuts" when I try to cut too many thicknesses.

Ok I'll do my best to help you!

I've never needed to use the Crease Pad with the baskets and blooms die. But if you did "need" it then the sandwich would be as follows

XL cutting pad
Die blade up
cardstock
Crease Pad
Roll through Big Shot

Again I only cut one sheet at a time (DSP or cardstock) and I've never needed the crease pad. Using the pad with your die isn't going to damage it but you will probably need to make more than one pass to get the full length of the die. Or you could use 2 crease pads.

In the instance of the Scallop Envelope die however sometimes the pressure of the hard cutting pad on top doesn't allow for "give" and the score lines will cut. I know there are those who don't need a crease pad with this die. But I know I have to use it with my machine.

I have other sizzix (non SU) XL dies like the scallop card and purse and I've never needed the crease pad with those dies either.

The Crease Pad is basically like a self healing cutting pad. It is consumable like your cutting pads and will need to be replaced after extended wear and tear.

I would be willing to bet that it would also outlast your cutting pad because it's made to "give" when cut into. Does this make sense?

If you are still having problems just let me know and I'll do my best to help you.

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I've updated the first post with the updated sandwich stack .pdf file as well.
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What about a second crease pad???
That's an option but I don't want to shell out the $$ for a second one.
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