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Old 10-17-2012, 08:53 AM   #81
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Happy Stamper,

What Paige said about not coloring too close to the lines is correct--the color from the markers WILL bleed outside the lines a bit, especially when they are new and juicier. Something I saw on either the Spectrum Noir website or the Crafter's Companion website suggested using a piece of paper towel underneath your cardstock while you are coloring to help wick the color through the cardstock instead of it spreading.

As for the problem with the Memento ink, I'm not sure what is going on because that is the brand they specifically recommend for use with the SN markers. They do say that the correct cardstock really matters. I have been using my SN markers with the same
Georgia Pacific cardstock and not had much of a problem. Maybe try using a lighter touch when coloring?

You could also contact the wonderful folks at Crafter's Companion, who are very helpful. Here's the link to their website. At the top, on the right, you will find a link for "contact us." They might be able to help.

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Good luck! And please report back if you find out anything helpful.
Great tip with the paper towel. I will try that myself. I use the GP card stock as well. Only thing I could get immediately but it has actually been working out just fine so far.
I agree , their C.S. is very helpful. I had a question about something and had it answered quickly.
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same papers and ink.. recommend Alcohol Marker paper by Crafters companion or any other paper that has worked for you with other brands of markers. memento is still the favorite in the entire alcohol marker industry for most artists and papercrafters.
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I can honestly say that I teach full time and have totally fell in love with the Crafter's Companion Alcohol marker paper. I have also used Copic X-press cardstock and Neenah, Gina K has a great paper also. I have found that you don't want to continue to change brands of paper because they all work differently with alcohol ink so if you keep changing paper, you will always have to "relearn" how the ink and paper work together (inconsistent results).
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I was naughty and purchased the 72....and I got them from 1scrap.com as I am in Canada....what awesome customer service, I got a lovely call from the lady (sorry I can't remember her name) and she clarified my address (I am having them delivered to work) and then advised me about opening them the first few times - dont yank the lid off , push with thumb and finger and gently pull with other hand, and that keeping them horizontal was best to stop the ink pooling at one end, we had a lovely chat about Copics (she is certified and I have 72 of Ciao) and how they compare to SN. so if you are in Canada I would definately recommend 1scrap.com !
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Thank you for the suggestions! I haven't had much time to practice (wouldn't you know, harvest is deemed more important around here ) but I tried again being very careful not to get too close to the lines when blending. It seemed to help a lot and I just had to go back over the edges a little when I was done so that there wouldn't be a line between the part of the darker color that got blended and the part that hadn't. Does that make sense?

I also want to try the paper towel trick if I have any further trouble.

Today's attempt is shown here: learning to use spectrum noir by happy-stamper - Cards and Paper Crafts at Splitcoaststampers
The image is about 1 1/2" and I used the large tip of the markers. I'm not happy with the blending on the bottom petal and I'm thinking that maybe I should have used the small tips for this size image....
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ok...i'm guilty...i bought the other six packs of SN markers today...and FYI, i was able to use the 15% off coupon again...now to go see if JoAnn's has another one of those cases to use for storage

i'm also doing the mission organization on The Scrap Rack...has anyone seen the webcasts?

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ok...i'm guilty...i bought the other six packs of SN markers today...and FYI, i was able to use the 15% off coupon again...now to go see if JoAnn's has another one of those cases to use for storage

i'm also doing the mission organization on The Scrap Rack...has anyone seen the webcasts?

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I just have 5 packs so far but look forward to buying more. I have my marker storage shelf I put together from an old CD rack all lined out for the complete set of markers and so I have many lonely slots.
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Thank you for the suggestions! I haven't had much time to practice (wouldn't you know, harvest is deemed more important around here ) but I tried again being very careful not to get too close to the lines when blending. It seemed to help a lot and I just had to go back over the edges a little when I was done so that there wouldn't be a line between the part of the darker color that got blended and the part that hadn't. Does that make sense?

I also want to try the paper towel trick if I have any further trouble.

Today's attempt is shown here: learning to use spectrum noir by happy-stamper - Cards and Paper Crafts at Splitcoaststampers
The image is about 1 1/2" and I used the large tip of the markers. I'm not happy with the blending on the bottom petal and I'm thinking that maybe I should have used the small tips for this size image....
Pretty! I need to practice with mine too.
I need more colors for better blending. That's not an excuse to buy more markers( but sounds good though right?) lol
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I can honestly say that I teach full time and have totally fell in love with the Crafter's Companion Alcohol marker paper. I have also used Copic X-press cardstock and Neenah, Gina K has a great paper also. I have found that you don't want to continue to change brands of paper because they all work differently with alcohol ink so if you keep changing paper, you will always have to "relearn" how the ink and paper work together (inconsistent results).
I can understand that about the paper , makes sense. Thank's for tips!
I visited your blog and your coloring is beautiful!!
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so...it was a wise decision and not just my usual impulse buy when i bought the paper that goes with the spectrum noir markers....who knew...
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I remembered the lady's name at 1Scrap.com its Sharon, and I also remember her giving me another tip. the numbers on the ends of the lids are not embossed so over time they can rub off and she suggested either using clear nail polish or gloss accents on the end to protect them
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I remembered the lady's name at 1Scrap.com its Sharon, and I also remember her giving me another tip. the numbers on the ends of the lids are not embossed so over time they can rub off and she suggested either using clear nail polish or gloss accents on the end to protect them

Great tip, I will do that tomorrow! TFS.
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I am so excited my Spectrums arrived yesterday at work...I had the day off, so what a lovely surprise this morning to see them on my desk...I now have to wait for 4:30 to roll round and get home and get my little hands on them to play.....
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I am so excited my Spectrums arrived yesterday at work...I had the day off, so what a lovely surprise this morning to see them on my desk...I now have to wait for 4:30 to roll round and get home and get my little hands on them to play.....
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I remembered the lady's name at 1Scrap.com its Sharon, and I also remember her giving me another tip. the numbers on the ends of the lids are not embossed so over time they can rub off and she suggested either using clear nail polish or gloss accents on the end to protect them
I may be over thinking this....but what I fear is what happened if the nail polish chips or wears off- will the labeling come off with it?? :0
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I used my p-touch labeler and labeled the barrels of the markers with the numbers. I happened to have black tape with white printing so it almost looks like they came that way.

I used these in a couple of classes at CKC and was hooked. I'm hoping to play this weekend.
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I used my p-touch labeler and labeled the barrels of the markers with the numbers. I happened to have black tape with white printing so it almost looks like they came that way.

I used these in a couple of classes at CKC and was hooked. I'm hoping to play this weekend.
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I got the rest of my Spectrum Noir markers...not to get them organized in their case. I love the idea of marking the numbers with the labeler so they are easily identifiable. I got the DVD too so I'm looking forward to watching it and trying out some of the techniques....anticipating some fun times this week!
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I tried the Copics at a local scrapbook store this weekend...they seemed like juicy markers. Is there something unique about them being an "alcohol marker"? I don't understand the difference or what the alcohol markers can do?
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In a nutshell--alcohol markers aren't as likely to make cardstock pill or warp because alcohol dries faster. I also think alcohol pens blend better together for subtle shading. Many alcohol pens also have replaceable nibs and re-inkers available.
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I've been buying the markers at Joann's with 50% off coupons. I haven't played with them yet. I have eight colors so far and I think Joann's has three more colors I need to get.
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Wow! talk about a bargain...are you buying those cases at JoAnn's to put them in?
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I should have never opened this thread

I'd managed to resist the siren song of Copics because they are so pricey and I am not an artist - just someone who likes to play with her toys. Love my colored pencils and OMS, and can do alright with watercolor markers used as paints. Didn't need anything else, nosirree.

But these Spectrum Noir are more reasonably priced! And they're packaged in sets where I don't have to figure out what colors will work together! And they sell them at Joann's, where I can use coupons!

So now I own 8 of the sets and I'll be accumulating the rest. I did have some problems with the color bleeding outside the lines, but I picked up some Hammermill Color Copy Digital 80lb Cardstock (found it recommended somewhere on a Copic thread) and oh my, what a difference that makes!

I haven't managed to complete a card, but I have played around quite a bit and have figured out how to color a couple of people stamps where I could never get the skin tone to look anywhere near natural.

Hubby is so happy that I'm into a hobby that saves us so much money! Instead of buying Christmas cards, I bought a stamp - on sale! - and then only needed $80 worth of markers to color it to my satisfaction
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Hubby is so happy that I'm into a hobby that saves us so much money! Instead of buying Christmas cards, I bought a stamp - on sale! - and then only needed $80 worth of markers to color it to my satisfaction "


This makes me smile....so you're the one to blame for the 72 Spectrum Noir markers currently awaiting use in my craft room? ......this was exactly the rationale i used when i got into card making...all the money i can save making my own cards....and then i needed some stamps, some ink, cardstock, embellishments and on and on....

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But it's oh so worth it!! My husband is pretty good about my habit (especially now that's it's football season heehee). I agree Susan, there is no end!!

My Joann's doesn't carry them in store, but they can be ordered online. But I have been ordering on ebay for the most part. Of the basic 6 packs, I need 4 more and then I will try to eventually buy the 24 pack sets to complete collection. Can't wait! I also have the DVD on it's way from ebay so I'm looking forward to that too.

Cheryl that's a great tip about the paper. I wonder if they carry it at Walmart? I have the Georgia Pacific I bought there and it's "okay" but you do have to be careful with the bleeding still. I bought it for my Copics and think the bleeding is mostly related to printer ink. I read somewhere if you do not have the right printer ink, take your images to a store to print them for you so they will not bleed like that.
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The problem is, I have a whole crafting cave in my basement that is overflowing with all these things I needed so i could keep saving money by making my own cards Luckily, my husband says that he's still saving money on cards, because he's not buying the materials and tools to make them. (When we were still newlyweds, we decided that each of us would get a weekly "allowance" to spend on anything we wanted with no comments allowed from the other. Nipped many an argument in the bud.)

Re: The Hammermill cardstock - I haven't seen it at Walmart. It's available at Amazon, and i was able to order some from our regular office supply vendor at work. With the Georgia Pacific, the lines of the image didnt' run, just the marker ink bled out past the border. I'm sure I was just using too heavy a hand, but with the Hammermill I'm not having that problem.

I just love the tutorials on the Spectrum Noir site. I paid for an online coloring class a while back and I'm getting much more useful information from the SN site than I got from that class.
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Room sounds great! I like your spending arrangement too .

I am definitely going to look into that paper.
I had some images printed from my printer that would bleed with Copics , but if I stamped an image using same paper it never bled. So some printers (and I read something on that too) will cause that. My preference is to stamp anyway.

Thanks too for reminding me to check out their tutorials. I'm sure it will be very helpful.
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I had some images printed from my printer that would bleed with Copics , but if I stamped an image using same paper it never bled. So some printers (and I read something on that too) will cause that. My preference is to stamp anyway.
No kidding on the printer! If I print at home on my Canon, no bleeding and no problem. But I tried some that I had printed with the HP inkjet from work, and that ink bled like crazy, even after letting it sit to dry and trying to heat set it.
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Jennie Black, the only Spectrum Noir instructor in the US, was at our LSS this weekend and did a make n take! Since I was interested in learning about these markers I decided to go for it (I didn't know then that she was with SN). I really enjoyed the MAT with her and coloring the two tags. I've never used Copics (could never justify spending $5 on a marker however good it is) but I can say I loved the results with SN! After I came back, I checked the SN website and found out she's the only instructor in the US. That made me so excited! I figured nobody other than folks here can understand my excitement

I now have 2 of the 6-packs and the CC CS (I'd tried them on PTI CS but found it hard to blend but CC CS seemed to do much better)! I'm all set to get the rest of the 6-packs
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I've met Jennie and seen her work - she can do amazing things with the SN markers - I'm looking forward to a class with her one of these days...I have 72 of the markers - the basic series I guess...now to find time to color!
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Yes - she does wonders with the markers!
oh wow! I wish she would have some classes in our area. I would love to attend!
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oh wow! I wish she would have some classes in our area. I would love to attend!
Ok girls your making me jealous! But happy for you! Wish I lived in that area.
To date I now have 10 of the 12 sets! Yay!!! I can finally accomplish having a complete set!!! The other markers I just couldn't get ahead . To expensive to get very many at a time. Have fun everybody!
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To date I now have 10 of the 12 sets! Yay!!! I can finally accomplish having a complete set!!! The other markers I just couldn't get ahead . To expensive to get very many at a time. Have fun everybody!
Glad you are building your collection, Paige. I was at Joann's yesterday for the last day of their Veteran's Day sale. I picked up 3 sets, the greens, blues, and browns. I had a 50% and 60% coupon, and a sweet lady gave me her 60% coupon she wasn't going to use. So I got 3 sets of 6 for only a little over $20. Hooray for me!

PS If anyone is having trouble with the lids being hard to get off and on - here is a tip. Take a cloth, spray a little Pledge furniture spray on it, and wipe all around the inside of the lid, and around the edge of the marker where the cap goes on. It will lubricate it and make it easier to remove.

I think you could probably also use WD 40, but I always have Pledge on hand. It seems to work well on plastic parts. A lever on my vacuum was hard to move, and with a little Pledge, it now moves smoothly.
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Glad you are building your collection, Paige. I was at Joann's yesterday for the last day of their Veteran's Day sale. I picked up 3 sets, the greens, blues, and browns. I had a 50% and 60% coupon, and a sweet lady gave me her 60% coupon she wasn't going to use. So I got 3 sets of 6 for only a little over $20. Hooray for me!

PS If anyone is having trouble with the lids being hard to get off and on - here is a tip. Take a cloth, spray a little Pledge furniture spray on it, and wipe all around the inside of the lid, and around the edge of the marker where the cap goes on. It will lubricate it and make it easier to remove.

I think you could probably also use WD 40, but I always have Pledge on hand. It seems to work well on plastic parts. A lever on my vacuum was hard to move, and with a little Pledge, it now moves smoothly.
Thanks! And that's a great tip!
I still need Turquoise and Warm Grays. To complete my set.
Yes I was happy about Joann's sale myself! I was in Fri. got some Sakura Metallic pens and stuff for embellishing(still want the Stardust ones). And then Sun .I was with my mom and she had a 60% off and bought the M S punch set for me that has the complete alphabet. WooHoo! I love presents. Little does she know it will really come in handy for their 50th Anniversary album I am about to make for them haha.
Can't wait for next sale
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:06 PM   #117
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I understand their was a tutorial of removing the Spectrum Noir marker caps easily on the Crafters Companion website....something about wiggling the two pieces gently back and forth and then sliding the cap off easily....going to try it!
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:30 AM   #118
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My other 6-packs got shipped today! Hope they get here before the Thanksgiving break!
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that is so exciting - and it gives me the idea to block off the day after thanksgiving to hunker down in my craft room and finally play with mine...
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Old 11-14-2012, 03:44 PM   #120
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I made a cute card for my cousin using the markers, but can't post it yet on my blog because she hasn't received it yet. But I will!
I think you will really like them! I have been blending them just fine(I think so anyway haha). I'm really happy to be able to have a complete set soon and not having to sweat it out to collect the complete set! Whew!
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