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Old 01-29-2018, 01:14 PM   #1  
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Default Vigorhood Laminator for Foiling

There is a brief youtube from the 2018 Phoenix Creativation in which someone is introducing a laminator made by Vigorhood. The thing that was unique about it over all other laminators, was that you could foil any artwork or lettering that was copied on an inkjet printer. You would no longer need laser printer copies in order to foil.

I've searched the internet for more info, but can't seem to locate the part about "no laser printing required". I'm thinking "how sweet, now that we all ran out and purchased laser printers for foiling." Is anyone familiar with this laminator?
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:30 PM   #2  
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I must have missed that booth - sounds interesting.
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I found this video:
I haven't watched it, yet, so I don't know if it addresses the printer.
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Just watched the video, and she does say - at about 2.35- that you can use a design printed on any printer, not just a laser print, then runs one through the laminator, but that is all they say/show. With the potential for that machine, I'd have thought it would have gotten more exposure. Especially an explanation as to what makes that work. Just Googled it, and apart from the fact it's clearly a Chinese company, I can't find anything about it either.
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Could it be a mistake? Maybe a communications glitch? I don't get how the foil would adhere, not that I'm a foil expert.
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Yes, I'm really puzzled too.They say' on any printer', so it supposedly isn't a printer of theirs with special ink. I can't see how the foil would stick either. It doesn't stick to all glues- I had total fails with 2 glue inkpads I have- so it's not an easy thing to do. At the moment, the only thing I can think of is that they have a special paper, but I'm not really seeing how that could work.
It is possible there was a communication breakdown there- maybe it isn't any printer, but one of theirs with a special ink?
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The paper was glossy, not regular cardstock or paper, so maybe that's key. There may have been a small language gap between them, and just the general excitement and noise might throw an explanation off track.

I watched a short video where someone was excited about a product but kind of missed mentioning a main function. Seems like it could be easy to do.
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Yes, I noticed the glossy paper. Thats an interesting point- I have glossy cardstock, and glossy photo paper, when I get a chance I'll give it a try. That would be funny if thats all the difference is! Real shame they didn't get a more informative video- they could have had customers lining up around the block!
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The results from your scientific experiments will be appreciated!

It's not sold (yet?) in the U.S., and I don't do that type of foiling. It's just an interesting puzzle to solve since foiling onto an image from an ink jet printer doesn't compute. I asked on the youtube video page since Lolly has nicely been responding to comments. I think we're just missing a small but key piece of info. : )

Here's Lolly's website and blog if someone wants to ask directly: lollypalooza
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I've just messaged her to ask the question. Will post the reply I get.
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Hi guys, she got back to me really quickly- this was her response.

'I am guessing it works because she used glossy paper to print on -- It stays moist longer.

Lolly'
So, not a definite answer, but it looks as though your guess was correct bjeans.
Been having a bit of a sort and tidy today, but tomorrow I will give it a try, and report back.
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Good, and she also responded to my comment on Youtube: "Yes I noticed that and so I wondered if that's how she was able to use "any" printer -- by using glossy paper"

Meanwhile, I'm impressed Vic found the video since the title said CHA and there was a little typo in Vigorhood. Good detective work.
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Hi guys, she got back to me really quickly- this was her response.

'I am guessing it works because she used glossy paper to print on -- It stays moist longer.

Lolly'
So, not a definite answer, but it looks as though your guess was correct bjeans.
Been having a bit of a sort and tidy today, but tomorrow I will give it a try, and report back.
This still doesn't make sense. The foil doesn't stick to toner because it's wet; it's because it melts with the heat and gets sticky again. Heat would just cause inkjet ink to dry out - unless they are printing on glossy paper and then using embossing powder on the image (embossing powder will stick to wet inkjet ink, I've embossed that way on vellum and it looks really cool). Then sending the print thru the laminator would re-melt the embossing powder and the foil would stick. But that would work with ANY laminator, not just this one.
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interesting....looking forward to reading your experiments as I haven't figured out the best way to laminate yet....
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