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Old 05-07-2013, 05:11 PM   #41
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When I made my gelatin plate all I could think of was the Mythbusters making Ballistic Gel! Still haven't had time to play-my DS graduates from college this weekend and I've got company coming so crafting has had to take a back seat to cleaning, cooking, etc!
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How long do home made gelli plates last, I thought I read somewhere that they go mouldy quickly?
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They can last a really, really long time if you take care of them.

As soon as you're done using them, remove all extra moisture from them by putting newspaper on it and lifting it off. Use several pieces until it's dry. Do this on both sides. Put it back into the cookie sheet and store it in the fridge. Do this every time you won't be using it, even if it's just for an hour.
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Thanks for the info, when you say cookie bad do you mean greaseproof paper?
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I just got home and my gelli arts plate (6 X 6 ) arrived. Yahoo!

Jan, "cookie bad" and "grease proof paper" did I miss something?
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Sorry Billie Anne I was asking if a cookie bag was made of greaseproof paper as understandingblue was kind enough to reply to my question on how to store homemade gelli pads, I see you won't be needing that info seeing as you have splashed out on a the real thing. Cant wait to hear how you enjoy playing with it!
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Thanks to all your enablers, I bought the 6x6 and the next size up plates from Dick Blick with 40% off coupons!
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I saw this video yesterday on FB so when I got home I gave it a try. It is so cool and fun. Check out the card I made with it. Just beware, you'll be hooked for sure! hehe :0)
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I saw this video yesterday on FB so when I got home I gave it a try. It is so cool and fun. Check out the card I made with it. Just beware, you'll be hooked for sure! hehe :0)
Terrific job on the card - love it! No one would ever guess that this was a new technique that you were trying - your work looks like you're an 'old hand' with gelli plates and packing tape. And you used the aluminum foil on the back which looks terrific.

It's so cool with this technique how the back part of the packing tape is the sticky side which allows the use of metal leaf or glitter or mica powders and who KNOWS what else....

As for the hooked part, I hear ya!! I'm already hooked on gelli plates so this technique will just make it that much harder to put the gelli plate away once I get started. "Walk away from the gelli plate." HAHAHAHA
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The frugal crafter has made a more permanent gelli plate. here is her video:
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I haven't tried this recipe; but it looks great on the video!
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I finally made some prints using my home made gelatin plate. I used the acrylic paints I had on hand and printed onto card stock from Sam's Club. I also tried the technique of pulling dried paint off-I pulled off the stencils once I was done playing around. Happy accident when the tape that didn't have paint grabbed some newsprint from the paper I had placed to protect my table. I used some PearlEx and some of the dried paint from other stencils to add some interest to the tape areas with no paint. Definitely addictive!
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I ordered my gelli plate today!! Can't wait for it to arrive!!
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For those of you who bought one of the Gelli plates -

Do you notice an odor coming off it? I just bought the smallest one and have not played with it yet. But it smells kind of minty or spicy. Can't describe it. Not a chemical smell. Just wondering.
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For those of you who bought one of the Gelli plates -

Do you notice an odor coming off it? I just bought the smallest one and have not played with it yet. But it smells kind of minty or spicy. Can't describe it. Not a chemical smell. Just wondering.
I still don't have a plate, but when I googled gelli plate smell I can assure you that you're not the only one!
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I finally set aside an afternoon to start playing with it. My experience:

I got some nice prints. I can see where mono printing would be really fun to do once you got your templates and stencils and texture tools and the like together and learned how to use them for different effects.

The 6x6 plate felt too small to me. I kept wanting more room.

But I'm glad I did not get the bigger plate because I personally found the odor of the plate unpleasant. I had to move the whole operation out onto my porch after half an hour of being cooped up with the plate in my studio. That was a nuisance, and it still did not eliminate the problem for me.

I think I might try making an actual gelatin plate. It would be an easy and inexpensive thing to try. Gail, did you do yours using plastic wrap before pouring so you could get it out easily? And did you have to put the plastic wrap back in before you put it away? I looked at some of Linda Germain's videos and she uses plastic wrap in her baking sheet.
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I finally set aside an afternoon to start playing with it. My experience:

I got some nice prints. I can see where mono printing would be really fun to do once you got your templates and stencils and texture tools and the like together and learned how to use them for different effects.

The 6x6 plate felt too small to me. I kept wanting more room.

But I'm glad I did not get the bigger plate because I personally found the odor of the plate unpleasant. I had to move the whole operation out onto my porch after half an hour of being cooped up with the plate in my studio. That was a nuisance, and it still did not eliminate the problem for me.

I think I might try making an actual gelatin plate. It would be an easy and inexpensive thing to try. Gail, did you do yours using plastic wrap before pouring so you could get it out easily? And did you have to put the plastic wrap back in before you put it away? I looked at some of Linda Germain's videos and she uses plastic wrap in her baking sheet.

In the workshop I took with her she only used plastic wrap for the top when storing. If you put it in the pan, one side of your plate will be unusable because it will have marks in it from the wrap. You will want to flip your plate from time to time while using it so both sides need to be smooth.

Tear out phone book pages or newspaper and remove all the moisture before storing in the pan and covering with plastic wrap - that's what will make it last a long time.

It comes out very easily if you do her trick of running your hand over the surface to loosen it the first time - you don't have to do it after that.

The stink of the gelatin is what makes me love my Gelli - that plain gelatin smells like a dead squirrel But Linda doesn't like the smell of the Gelli either.
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Thanks for this info!
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Oh snap! I just realized why gelatin would smell... it's an animal product! So if you aren't smelling the cherry or lime flavoring they use to make Jello, you'd smell the by-products they use to make the gelatin.

Don't know which would be worse -- that smell or the killer mint-ish odor coming off the Gelli.
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It literally makes me gag. I think Jeanne s, Texasgrammy and summerthyme64 thought I was exaggerating until we made them together. On the upside, it's a great appetite suppressant! Maybe I could invent the gelatin printing diet!
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But don't you find the Gelli plate odor annoying? I emailed Gelli Arts and asked them WHY the plate had that smell, what component of the plate it was coming from or what was it meant to mask and all they would say in their reply was that it was normal for the plate to have a "nice, lite scent." So I persisted and asked WHY did it need a nice lite scent, I was concerned about whether I should be working in a more ventilated area (my studio has one window and an air conditioner requires that it be closed all the time) and they replied that the plate had a "nice, lite scent and no special ventilation is needed." So I was left wondering what the scent was masking. Can't be so bad - the plates are marketed for use with children - but the scent is, to me, pretty insinuating. Like some weird minty odor. And since you have to package up the plate in it's original case after each use, I doubt it ever wears off.

Bah.

Of course, most people are using it with paints that have their own odors. I tend to use a no VOC acrylic paint that I get through Earthsafe, so there's no other odors to overpower the plate.

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It's so weird - I can't even smell it unless I stick my nose on it. When I'm printing, the only thing I smell is my acrylic paint. I wouldn't even have known it had a smell at all if Linda hadn't mentioned it
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Yes, I think that's what happens, once you get regular paints open they overpower the smell of the plate. But my paints don't have any odor at all.

But I just read your blog post on your Gelli Plate party, and you say the smell of the gelatin goes away after it is set. Really?

Can't believe I'm considering this. Being a vegetarian. Gelatin is actually pretty gross to think about. You don't want to think about it if you use it.
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I'm not a vegetarian, but it really takes a strong stomach to get through making it.

The smell doesn't totally go away but it's tolerable for sure. I would say that it's stronger after it's set than the Gelli plate since I can't smell the gelli plate at all - but you might have to judge for yourself.

After it's set, the smell fades to sort of a wet cardboard smell.

For me, the thought of making that gelatin more than once and smelling that stuff again makes me want to run away to a desert island - LOL.

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Just curious...can you do something similar to gelli printing using a craft sheet?
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I was wondering the same thing about the large sheet 9x12 of carving rubber I have. Have done similar mono printing on glass, so I would think the others would work. I just have to find some time to try it, but it doesn't seem to be happening---funny, the weeds and dust are still there, too. What AM I getting accomplished?
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I would think that you could get something similar on any flat surface, but you couldn't get the details like you can with the squishy gelli plates. It picks up even the finest little details.
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I have been searching around and it seems like it matters what kind of gelatin you use, odor-wise. People are saying that pure bovine gelatin doesn't smell as bad as porcine, which is what Knox is. They mention Bernard Jensen or Land of Lakes brand.

As for using other surfaces, you can do monotype on sheets of polycarbonate if you have an ink/paint that will adhere well. Julia and Gail Ayres have a DVD on it, using Akua Color inks, but they are doing a different sort of print. Here's a link to a preview of it:

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I have the DVD. It is pretty interesting, but really geared to someone who wants to do representational work. Although certainly the methods could be adapted.
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I have been searching around and it seems like it matters what kind of gelatin you use, odor-wise. People are saying that pure bovine gelatin doesn't smell as bad as porcine, which is what Knox is. They mention Bernard Jensen or Land of Lakes brand.

As for using other surfaces, you can do monotype on sheets of polycarbonate if you have an ink/paint that will adhere well. Julia and Gail Ayres have a DVD on it, using Akua Color inks, but they are doing a different sort of print. Here's a link to a preview of it:

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I have the DVD. It is pretty interesting, but really geared to someone who wants to do representational work. Although certainly the methods could be adapted.

FYI, Akua is awesome for traditional monoprinting - but will not work with gelatin. It doesn't stick to the gelatin at all so you get no color coverage on your plate.

We played with that and with Daniel Smith - which is oil based and was amazing. Very vivid color and fine detail. A really bad Iphone pic attached of how finely it rendered feathers. LONG drying time though, like oil paint. (it wouldn't work on the Gelli Plate - but it's great on stinky gel )
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That is a really stunning print!

Yes, the Akua was developed by a husband and wife team of monotype artists sepcifially because when they started a family, they started thinking about the toxicity of some of the inks they were using and decided to develop inks that would be non-toxic. Comparatively speaking.

The Akuas seem to adhere really well to polycarb on my DVD. I saw some prints Linda Germain did with Akua on gelatin on her website, and she does say the saturation is not possible like it is with the Daniel Smith.
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I did finally chat with someone at Gelli Arts and she said the scent was there to mask the odor of the chemicals in the plastic, which she said smelled bad ("bad" - her word, not mine). I told her about my experience and asked if perhaps my plate was in some way defective because it had such a strong odor. She said that in the years since they've had the plates on the market, only one other person (naturally - this is the story of my life except usually I'm the ONLY person) has ever called with this same complaint, and they had her send it back and there was nothing wrong with it. The woman was just very sensitive to the odor. The Gelli Arts woman said she would take back my plate and refund my money if I wanted, but I said no, there was no need. I can use it outside if I want to use it (lucky for me I live in Florida and not Alaska) and since there was nothing wrong with it, only with me, I saw no reason to return it.

Not surprised. I air out new rolls of Scor Tape before I can bring them into my studio or the smell irritates me.

So I guess I am going to see how I can work with the Gelli I have. I've just got to get everything set up so that once I'm out on the porch I don't have to keep running inside for more stuff.

Still, I wanted to ask the Gelli Arts lady "What are those chemicals that smell so bad that you have to put a scent in the plate to cover them up?" But I decided not to pursue it. Some things you just don't want to know.

As for the actual gelatin plate. Still thinking.
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Scor Tape has a smell?? LOL!

I feel for ya - I have an insane sensitivity to mold and other people can't smell it when I can. I am also violently allergic to it so maybe you have an allergy of some sort. I totally just sniffed my scor-tape!
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Next time you have to sniff it right after it comes out of the package . After it sits in the open air for a day or two it loses that light, fresh, chemical scent.
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I have been searching around and it seems like it matters what kind of gelatin you use, odor-wise. People are saying that pure bovine gelatin doesn't smell as bad as porcine, which is what Knox is. They mention Bernard Jensen or Land of Lakes brand. ...

I must do some research on this, because for what it's worth, leaf gelatin doesn't smell nearly as much as the granular stuff, but I'm not sure if it would be suitable for the plates.
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Apparently you can use it. Here's blog post by someone who did:

LATITUDE QUILTS: tutorial gelatin plate

I had never heard of leaf gelatin until you posted this, Sabrina. But then, it seems in the USA granular is the standard form.
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Scor Tape has a smell?? LOL!

I feel for ya - I have an insane sensitivity to mold and other people can't smell it when I can. I am also violently allergic to it so maybe you have an allergy of some sort. I totally just sniffed my scor-tape!
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Apparently you can use it. Here's blog post by someone who did:

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I had never heard of leaf gelatin until you posted this, Sabrina. But then, it seems in the USA granular is the standard form.

Granular is the normal here too, Rachel, but in specialist shops (and, interestingly, always in wholesalers, so I am guessing that restaurant chefs prefer it) I can find the leaf gelatine. And it's also great for plain (or stained glass) windows in gingerbread houses . I've even used it for a tennis net on a cake once.


I looked at that link you gave, and maybe that's given me the push to try this (once I can make space in the fridge!). That's another story...
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Just buy the plate from Gelli Arts

Speaking of which, here's a new video they put out for monoprinting using custom molding paste texture sheets with the gelli plate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlJavqlXfII
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K... that looks like fun!
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I don't know how to make a link to her website, but Carolyn Dube (pronounced do-bee) is a mixed media artist who uses a Gelli plate in fabulous ways. Her blog is A Colorful Journey. Be prepared to spend some time with her...at least her work fascinates me!!
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