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SDiegoGal 01-16-2009 04:49 PM

So You Wanna PIF?
 
Do you PIF? Wanna know what PIF is? Read on and get all the info you need regarding PIF threads!

For the most part PIF threads can be found here:

Swaps>Everything Else

PIF Topics:
What is a PIF?
How Does it Work?
About Dollar Values
What Can You PIF?
I Want to Play! Now What?
PIFing Tips
Important Reminders
Questions?

We hope this helps to shed some light on the world of PIFing. Go check it out. But be careful, it is addicting!

SDiegoGal 01-16-2009 04:49 PM

What is PIF?
In the Swaps/Everything Else forum there are some PIF threads. PIF stands for Pay It Forward. These PIF threads are a bit different than swaps, they are more like trading, but you aren't usually trading one on one. So we thought it might be a good idea to provide some basic information about PIFing along with some tips for those thinking about joining in.

SDiegoGal 01-16-2009 04:50 PM

How Does it Work?
One person will post a list of stamps or other items they are willing to part with. This list is usually in red so others can find it among the chatter. Another person comes along and snags something off the list and then posts their list. Only the most recent list is current. Each PIF thread has its own rules posted in the 1st post of the thread. The rules include the dollar values, what items are allowed and also when add-ons are required.

SDiegoGal 01-16-2009 04:50 PM

About Dollar Values
  • The dollar values of the threads usually go by the manufactures retail price or catalog price.
  • Sometimes you get items on sale or with a coupon, that isn't figured in. It was decided that the manufactures retail price or catalog value was the most fair way to list prices for your items.
  • You can lower the value on your items to entice people to snag.
  • You should lower the value on your item if, for example, it is a stamp set that is missing a stamp or if the set is very well loved (ink stained).
  • Don't lower the value below the dollar value of the thread you are listing it on. For example for PIF Stamp Sets $13-$18, do not lower the value of a set to $10 unless listing it with something else.
  • If an item is not in perfect condition you should include that information in your list.

SDiegoGal 01-16-2009 04:50 PM

What Can You PIF?
Some threads are for stamps or stamp sets only. Some threads are "everything goes", which means any craft related items are allowed. Some allow you to combine two lower priced sets to reach the value on the thread. Read the rules for the thread to find out what is allowed and what isn't.

SDiegoGal 01-16-2009 04:51 PM

I Want to Play! Now What?
PLEASE BE AWARE: When you snag and then post your list, you run the risk of having to part with something you may have not really wanted to. Once you snag you cannot go back to the previous list.

The PIF threads require you to add items to your list if it hasn't been snagged from within a certain amount of time. You will be expected to keep adding items to your list until someone else snags.

Some threads are one add a day and some are two or three. You will find the number of adds and the times for the adds in the rules for the thread. Most people start with a list of 3 items and then add more as the rules require.

If you know you aren't going to be around when it is time for an add you can put it on in advance. It is a good idea to put your adds on ahead of time rather than late.

If you are concerned about whether or not anyone would be interested in what you have to offer you can say "would anyone be interested in such and such" before snagging to get a feel for what others are looking for.

Usually, old SAB sets aren't popular. Most people have those already so if you think this might be away to get rid of your extras, most likely it won't work out that way.

SDiegoGal 01-16-2009 04:51 PM

PIFing Tips:
  • Don't be afraid to ask questions. There are several PIFers who have been at it for awhile and are happy to help new players figure things out. In fact, they love new players because it is a chance to see some new stuff.
  • When you snag, your post should say something like "snagging #3 dreams dujour". There should be no "ifs" in your snag statement. Then send a PM to the person you snagged from with your mailing info.
  • When posting your list, do it right after you snag. Not 20 minutes later, not tomorrow. They like the threads to keep moving. Have a list of items together before you snag so you will be ready. You can post your list and then edit it to add the links and/or prices if you have to look them up. But that should be done in a timely manner.
  • Your list should be in red and numbered and include the value of the items. If you snagged an item with a $20 value, your list must include at least one item of the same or higher value. The rest of the items can be the minimum value for the thread.
  • Please include links to the items you are listing. You can usually find the stuff on eBay or the SCS gallery for stamp sets. You can find items on the manufacturers website or sites that sell crafting items. You can also take pictures of your items and include them in the list. Please note: If you are a business owner, demo, consultant, etc., you may not post links that direct others to your personal and/or business blog and/or website. This also applies to eBay auctions you have listed.
  • Put your adds in on time or ahead of time. It is unfair to make other players wait for your listing. When listing your adds, post the date and time of the add. Ex: "1/7/09 10AM add". This helps to keep it organized and show that the adds are done on time.
  • Once your list has been snagged from, the person who snagged should PM you with their mailing address. You should mail their item out within a week. Please either get delivery confirmation or keep your receipt. If the item does not arrive you will be asked to provide proof that you mailed it.
  • It may be a good idea to keep a running list of what you need to mail and what is owed to you. If you don't get an item within two weeks of a snag, you should PM the person that owes it to you. If they do not respond to your PM, then contact a moderator with the details.
  • Keep it fresh. Most threads require you to add something that hasn't been listed before each time you post a list. If you keep listing the same items over and over and they don't get snagged, it may be time to take a break or go digging for new items to list.
  • Each thread has a thread momma, who is essentially the same as a swap hostess. They are the person who started the thread and posted the rules. They help to ensure that the rules are followed. The thread momma has a right to ask people who have repeat issues with following the rules to not play on their thread, just as a swap hostess has the right to turn down a swapper who does not complete their swaps.
  • Read the rules for the thread before playing so you know what is expected. It is also a good idea to lurk and get a feel for how it all works before jumping in.
  • Please only play within your means, both monetarily and time-wise.

SDiegoGal 01-16-2009 04:51 PM

Important Reminders
  • While PIFing is a valuable resource for our members, we do not guarantee or endorse any particular trade. You are entering a trade agreement at your own risk.
  • As with any agreement between two people, please use common sense and good judgment when entering into a trade.
  • Members who do not successfully complete their deals risk suspension of their Splitcoast membership. Any issue in dispute will be carefully examined by the forum moderators. Any decisions made will be based on the information received from all parties involved.
  • If you intend to trade here, please do so with the knowledge that if you do not follow through you may face mail fraud charges from the individual with whom you've dealt.
  • Moderators and administrators may delete or edit any posts they feel are not in compliance with the TOS.

SDiegoGal 01-16-2009 04:54 PM

Thank you in advance for working to ensure all PIF transactions are carried through.

Questions?
If you have any questions or suggestions for improvements to these guidelines, post your feedback in the PIF Questions Thread.


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