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06-14-2009
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Die Cut Diva
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: FL and NC
Posts: 3,827
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White StazOn or SU Craft White
Which of these do you have the best luck using on darker CS? TIA.
Wanda
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06-14-2009
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Kookie Creator
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: California
Posts: 433
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I like SU craft white, I think it is bolder.
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06-14-2009
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Stazon Splitcoast
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Central NY
Posts: 13,158
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For dark cs, you want the craft. StazOn white works great on transparancies.
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Gallery Gazer
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Still out on a whim...
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These are not interchangeable. StazOn is for slick surfaces only...the container says not for use on cardstock or other porous surfaces, and they mean it...it's not good except on slick surfaces, where it's totally cool. The SU craft works great on colored cardstock. HTH!
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06-14-2009
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Die Cut Diva
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: FL and NC
Posts: 3,827
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Shows you how much I read labels!!! Craft White it'll be. Thanks stampers.
Wanda
Quote:
Originally Posted by LateBlossom
These are not interchangeable. StazOn is for slick surfaces only...the container says not for use on cardstock or other porous surfaces, and they mean it...it's not good except on slick surfaces, where it's totally cool. The SU craft works great on colored cardstock. HTH!
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06-17-2009
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Compulsive Stamper
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: sunny California
Posts: 34
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staz-on white
Quote:
Originally Posted by LateBlossom
These are not interchangeable. StazOn is for slick surfaces only...the container says not for use on cardstock or other porous surfaces, and they mean it...it's not good except on slick surfaces, where it's totally cool. The SU craft works great on colored cardstock. HTH!
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Wow! Good to know . . . amazing what you learn when you read . . . must be getting lazy. Thanks for the info!
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06-17-2009
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Die Cut Diva
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Twin Cities,MN
Posts: 3,673
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I use black stazon for all my cards. I get a clearer image and can use watercolor pencils without the ink running. I do use white craft on dark cards. It takes longer to dry.
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Embossing Fanatic
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 64
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It's always great to learn some of the basics. I have another question regaring the SU! White Craft ink. Do I have to heat set it even if I'm not planning on embossing? For instance, if I just want to stamp an image on dark colored cardstock, do I still have to use the Heat Tool to set it? If so, how long do I need to do it for. The Craft ink rules are still very blurry to me.
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06-17-2009
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Compulsive Stamper
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Connersville, IN
Posts: 44
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When I use the craft white, I have to let it set for a while or carefully dried. I have trouble with detail using the white craft. I may be pressing too hard when I stamp. I try not to. I am glad to know about the stazon white.
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06-17-2009
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Pearl-ExPert
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: The Sunny South
Posts: 2,016
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When I used White Staz-on on a Christmas project the white never came off the stamp. I was very disappointed about that, but it worked absolutely great on the transparency sheets. I used my heavy duty stamp cleaners that will clean off black staz-on but it hardly touched it. I also used Staz-on cleaner...didn't work so good on the white. Anyone else have that experience?
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06-17-2009
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Rubber Obsessor
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: British Columbia, Canada
Posts: 109
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Is there another alternative to SU craft white - I don't have any SU stuff.
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06-17-2009
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Polyshrink Goddess
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Posts: 633
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RHS
Is there another alternative to SU craft white - I don't have any SU stuff.
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I use Colorbox Frost White, but I've heard that Papertrey's Fresh Snow ink is also very good.
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Kookie Creator
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: High Point, North Carolina
Posts: 418
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wilma bass
When I used White Staz-on on a Christmas project the white never came off the stamp. I was very disappointed about that, but it worked absolutely great on the transparency sheets. I used my heavy duty stamp cleaners that will clean off black staz-on but it hardly touched it. I also used Staz-on cleaner...didn't work so good on the white. Anyone else have that experience?
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SU! has formulated the Whisper White Craft pads differently from the other craft pads in order to get the really bright white people wanted. Yes, it is harder to get it off, but hang in there! I use Stampin' Mist and my Stampin' Scrub and rub hard--if it stays, you need more Stampin' Mist--don't be shy with it!
Good luck!
--Janis
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06-17-2009
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Stazon Splitcoast
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 14,424
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wilma bass
When I used White Staz-on on a Christmas project the white never came off the stamp. I was very disappointed about that, but it worked absolutely great on the transparency sheets. I used my heavy duty stamp cleaners that will clean off black staz-on but it hardly touched it. I also used Staz-on cleaner...didn't work so good on the white. Anyone else have that experience?
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Something is different about the white StazOn -- must be the additive (usually titanium dioxide) used to make the ink opaque. In other media, that opaque additive really sticks. Add to that the fact that the ink is intended to be permanent, and you've got a combo that's VERY hard to clean.
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06-17-2009
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Embossing Fanatic
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: The Aloha State
Posts: 62
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I have the PTI white ink -Fresh Snow and really like it. I've also used the Colorbox Frost White and IMO the PTI Fresh Snow is brighter, whiter. But both are pigment inks not craft inks and I find that I have be careful not rub them until they are dry!
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Pearl-ExPert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: San Jose-Willow Glen
Posts: 2,422
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But both are pigment inks not craft inks and I find that I have be careful not rub them until they are dry!
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FYI  SU's craft inks are pigment inks they just call them craft ink.
I almost always use my heat tool to set craft inks just because I can move to the next step a little quicker.
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06-18-2009
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Stazon Splitcoast
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 14,424
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beaddict
FYI  SU's craft inks are pigment inks they just call them craft ink.
I almost always use my heat tool to set craft inks just because I can move to the next step a little quicker.
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For some reason heat-setting also makes the SU! Whisper White a bit brighter when it dries! 
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Proud SU! demo and Sci-Fi Geek!
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06-18-2009
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VSN & VSBN Go to Girl
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Suffolk, VA
Posts: 19,533
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I would choose Papertrey Ink's Fresh Snow over the SU! White, if you can.
When the 2 are compared side by side there is no doubt the PTI ink is whiter and brighter.
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06-19-2009
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Compulsive Stamper
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Connersville, IN
Posts: 44
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I sure appreciate this information, because I always hesitated to use white just because I didn't like to results. Sometimes when I can't get the white to come off, I have put it under some water witha a little gentle dish soap and then toweled it off. Hope I didn't do a bad thing.
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