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Old 02-18-2013, 05:16 PM   #1
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Default SU Whisper White card stock...

I think I was a little too harsh in my assessment of this card stock. I ordered it for card bases and was seriously disappointed when it came in because it is not the sturdy base I like for my cards. So I set it aside...

The other day I cut a piece of it to stamp something and wow! it really takes ink well. Very nice (at least with dye ink-I tried pigment ink and my stamps kinda slid around on it making for a messy image!) I'll just use dye inks.

Overall, I change my mind-Whisper White does have some good qualities going for it.

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Whisper White and Very Vanilla both excel in taking crisp images. I agree they are not suitable for a card base. Both are actually thinner than the rest of the SU colors. I use the colored SU CS for bases a lot - although if I can, I prefer something heavier like the Gina K or PTI CS. But since I don't usually do white bases, I'll pick based on the color I want behind my BG, and if it's an SU color I'll use it.

But I couldn't live without Whisper White and Very Vanilla - I have a good stash on hand at all times! Try some fluid chalk ink on it - also very nice. And, of course, Versafine, my favorite ink, currently.
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It's also good if you color your images with Prismacolor pencils and gamsol. Not so good for copic markers.
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It cracks when I try to emboss, but images are crisp when stamped. I like having some on hand, too.
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I find it to be the best at getting a solid image to appear "solid" as well. Other factors being dealt with such as a stamp in good shape, using a well inked stamp pad, stamping on the proper surface....SU's Whisper White or Very Vanilla is a must.
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My first impression was pretty much the same: "Ack! It's too thin!"

Then I started using it and found that the smooth surface is really good for sponging and prismacolor/gamsol. It also allows me to color with my markers without a lot of blotching or streaking.

But now I find that I need to keep several types of white paper on hand - thicker stuff for card bases, medium stuff for normal stamping, and Whisper White for certain techniques. Grrr.
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It's also good if you color your images with Prismacolor pencils and gamsol. Not so good for copic markers.
Why do you say it's not good for Copic markers? I use copics on whisper white all the time. Granted, I'm not sitting there blending and coloring for 2 hours. Mine are mostly quick coloring jobs...
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I never noticed a problem with embossing on it myself. And I do a lot of embossing and especially resists. I just did a card with an emboss- resist BG where the pattern was really dense and solid, and used clear EP and had no problems, and then I applied Distress Ink over it and then I ironed off the EP, and the paper held up very well.
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I never noticed a problem with embossing on it myself. And I do a lot of embossing and especially resists. I just did a card with an emboss- resist BG where the pattern was really dense and solid, and used clear EP and had no problems, and then I applied Distress Ink over it and then I ironed off the EP, and the paper held up very well.
I think the problem is whither dry embossing, not heat. I have had cracks with my big shot if my sandwich is too tight. But if I most the WW with alcohol or loosen my sandwich it turns out great.
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Whisper White and Very Vanilla both excel in taking crisp images. I agree they are not suitable for a card base. Both are actually thinner than the rest of the SU colors. I use the colored SU CS for bases a lot - although if I can, I prefer something heavier like the Gina K or PTI CS. But since I don't usually do white bases, I'll pick based on the color I want behind my BG, and if it's an SU color I'll use it.

But I couldn't live without Whisper White and Very Vanilla - I have a good stash on hand at all times! Try some fluid chalk ink on it - also very nice. And, of course, Versafine, my favorite ink, currently.
I just purchased my first pack of the Very Vanilla. I have not tried it yet, so I'm happy to see that you like it, and that it is very smooth. I too, do not use White or vanilla as my card bases. I like using colored cardstock as my base, and I line them with white or vanilla. I just really like the looks of a colored card base.
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I do love WW and VV for the reasons mentioned above. I hope SU adds a thicker white card stock for bases at some point. I can wish, right??!!!
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SU has to know that many are using other companies cs in those colors when we want something heavier for card bases. My demo obviously uses WW and VV for bases in her workshops and they're so flimsy! Stamp beautifully though, I use them for that and layers. Easy to punch too.

But, I also like to use colored cs for card bases. Helps me use the stash!
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I LOVE Whisper White, but wonder why SU won't add a heavy white for bases.????

I will not use a cheaper version. I also love SU envelopes! And everything else SU!
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I use Whisper White and Vanilla for card bases all the time. I guess I am just used to it. I like the utter whiteness and stampability of the white so I can't bear to substitute. The Naturals White, Naturals Ivory and Shimmery White are both a bit heavier in weight and nice for card bases too.
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Why do you say it's not good for Copic markers? I use copics on whisper white all the time. Granted, I'm not sitting there blending and coloring for 2 hours. Mine are mostly quick coloring jobs...
Something about its coating not reacting well with the markers....
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I have to agree that the WW and VV are a little flimsy for bases. I know that even my demo has started purchasing a heavier weight card stock at a local paper store for those times when the project needs a firmer base.

For a long time, as a demo, I was SU only. I did not mind the weight of the WW or VV because I never make cards with very many layers or heavy embellishments. It was only after dropping as a demo and straying into "Copic-land" that I started buying other white card stock. In the process I discovered that images needing heavy coloring weren't for me. It's not what I love about the whole stamping thing...but I did discover I really like the heavier card stock. Clean and simple designs have more "oomph" on heavier paper, at least in my opinion.

However; I do still love my WW and VV for layers and solid images! I am hoping that SU will come out with a heavier paper. It seems an odd gap in their product line at this point.
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Evidently I need to experiment more with other white cardstocks.

I use WW and VV all the time, for bases, in layering, coloring with copics (not heavy blending though), dry embossing and heat embossing, chalks... I haven't found a big problem with any of those techniques.

Maybe my standards are a bit low?
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I use Whisper White and Very Vanilla as card bases. They work great for me. Other times I use colored card stock and line them. I'm happy with it and that works for me!
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I do like the Naturals White and the Naturals Ivory from SU (p 160?) for bases.
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I have at least 5 different types of white paper. I use them all for different reasons. If I want to stamp a solid stamp--I use SU. If I want to cut a mat for a photo, I use Georgia Pacific from Walmart. Coloring with Copics--Copic XPress It. General use--Bazill Simply Smooth is nice. But for cardbases--I absolutely love PTI's white cardstock. It's cheap and very, very sturdy.
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If you are having issues with pigment ink on WW or VV use a stamp positioner and it will not move or smear on you. I know from experience!
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If I want to use WW or VV for a cardbase, I make the base 4 X 5 1/4 then back it with a 4 1/4 X 5 1/2 piece of colored cardstock. It works great!
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