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Old 05-12-2013, 06:53 PM   #161
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I have NEVER known anyone who made a living at MLM/DS. There is someone in my area who gets the trips etc from SU but I go to her garage sale every year and she has LOTS of stuff..... makes me wonder if she buys just to get commission on her downline.
Here is what I think: in my community, you could MAYBE support yourself and a couple kids on 40K a year..... that is, if you have a free babysitter. Then you would have to buy health insurance on your own (minimum 12K a year) plus pay for dental care and any prescription medications because you are not getting insurance thru an employer. How much do you have to sell to make over 52K a year? Then add in the cost of going to sales meetings, conventions, etc.
I have known a LOT of people who have sold a LOT of things...... none have made any significant money.
I am a SU demo only for the discount. When it becomes difficult to meet the minimums, I won't do it anymore.
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I've known many direct sellers that have made a living. The thing with direct sales is that you can make as much money as you set your mind to make. It is work but the opportunity is there for anyone.
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One of the demos I know is a single mom. SU! Is her source of income. She works hard, it's a full time job, but it supports her family.
It can be done.
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I've known many direct sellers that have made a living. The thing with direct sales is that you can make as much money as you set your mind to make. It is work but the opportunity is there for anyone.
I hope you don't think I am attacking you, just sharing my point of view and that of many of us following this thread that has morphed into quite a different topic that the OP intended! I don't mean to offend anyone.

I know the whole direct sales mantra...if you can believe it you can achieve it... a whole lot of people buy into the idea but the fact remains that it is rare. And just saying it doesn't make it so. (Yes there are those who make money, obviously those who come in early, or are in the right place at the right time.)

I decided to shoot for the stars in a cosmetic company one time, with the 'help' of a pushy director who kept feeding me the line. I attended the highly strung meetings, made cold calls, made not so cold calls, did the booth at the trade show... but it just wasn't me. Setting goals for myself also wasn't the magic trick I was lead to believe.

You have to be of an outgoing nature, fairly aggressive and thick skinned to even begin to be successful. (Okay, that is my opinion there.) And the fact is that there has to be people around who want your product.

I could 'set my mind' that I could turn myself into a run way model. I could tell myself all kinds of positive talk and I would still be 5'2", not in any way the 'model' of a model. Telling yourself is not a magic bullet. And no amount of self talk is going to grow me 10 inches or turn me into someone I'm not.

The vast majority of SU demonstrators are like my dear demo. They are into it for the passion of the craft and the product. To introduce others to it is a bonus and if it grows into a little extra cash, great.

Okay, that is my opinion and I hope I didn't offend anyone
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Just got to see the new catty and I am loving it!
I think I only bought one new set last year.....Little Additions. I tend to buy paper, dsp, embossing folders, embellishments, etc. any more.

There are at least five/six stamp sets (or more) that I would like!

Yay, yay, hip, hip hooray for new catty time!
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I've known many direct sellers that have made a living. The thing with direct sales is that you can make as much money as you set your mind to make. It is work but the opportunity is there for anyone.
I believe that this is a very popular misconception. The truth is that fewer than 2% of the people in direct sales are showing any kind of a profit. Would you ever knowingly take a job in which fewer that 2% of the employees made any money? Check out PinkTruth.com. It's a real eye-opener.
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The vast majority of SU demonstrators are like my dear demo. They are into it for the passion of the craft and the product. To introduce others to it is a bonus and if it grows into a little extra cash, great.
This statement is true, but if a person wanted to make a living selling SU! Products it can be done. It is work like any other sales job but it has and can be done.

I work my business part time and I do great for a part time job. I pay taxes on a profit. I also enjoy the benefits of being a demo, I've got the best of both worlds - free and discounted product, free vacations, extra money to help pay for extras for my family and a hobby that I still love.

This business isn't for everyone but just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for everyone.
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This statement is true, but if a person wanted to make a living selling SU! Products it can be done. It is work like any other sales job but it has and can be done.

I work my business part time and I do great for a part time job. I pay taxes on a profit. I also enjoy the benefits of being a demo, I've got the best of both worlds - free and discounted product, free vacations, extra money to help pay for extras for my family and a hobby that I still love.

This business isn't for everyone but just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for everyone.
LOL ok. I am still a demo, discount only. I have never, and would never, try to make a profit. And again, I will believe you (or anyone else) is making a profit when I see your Schedule C.
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I really thought this thread was started to talk about the sneak peak! Some how we've gotten off track a bit.

I share the catalog with a friend of mine and she is just as excited as I am!

How ever I do have a question about one of the cards in the catalog? It's on page 134. Bottom corner. the green card. What die cut did they use and what Stamp set did they use on the die cut?
We looked through the catalog for along time and couldn't find the die cut or stamp they used.

Now back to the catalog. What do you think about it?

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Check the supply list on the Stampin Up! Website- I would check but I am not at home
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Now back to the catalog. What do you think about it?
I am kind of loving it! It's definitely inspiring me to buy more than last year's. I am youngin and if they're trying to appeal to the youngins, I can tell you it's working. I like the new setup and the way ideas are presented throughout. I know some people aren't liking it who have been SU demos/customers for 10+ years, but they have to update some time, right? I was hoping to see more photopolymer, but fingers crossed more of that is to come.
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Can you tell me if the soda pop tops are in the new catty? If not I will have to order out of the mini before its over.
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Can you tell me if the soda pop tops are in the new catty? If not I will have to order out of the mini before its over.

I didn't see any in the New catalog!
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I really thought this thread was started to talk about the sneak peak! Some how we've gotten off track a bit.

I share the catalog with a friend of mine and she is just as excited as I am!

How ever I do have a question about one of the cards in the catalog? It's on page 134. Bottom corner. the green card. What die cut did they use and what Stamp set did they use on the die cut?
We looked through the catalog for along time and couldn't find the die cut or stamp they used.

Now back to the catalog. What do you think about it?
P. 134
The supply list just says Memorable Moments stamp set, no die cut.
So that would ean stamp amazing to line things up, and then marker to draw in the lines.
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Oh I can't wait to be able to order from the new catalog! There are too many things I want so that is why I want to sign up. I will not be anything but a hobbyist but I'm fine with that.
SU's products are some of the best in the stamping/scrapping world. And coming from me that is saying a lot because I resisted SU like the plague! Now I just love it all. I want to sign up already!!
I feel like the woman in the Mervyn's commercial from years ago. She was all excited for their sales, arrived way early in the morning and stood at the glass door peering inside, saying "Open. Open. Open!"
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My demo's schedule is so busy we are having a hard time finding time to meet and discuss all of it. Is there any other way I can sign up and she will still get the credit for it?
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My demo's schedule is so busy we are having a hard time finding time to meet and discuss all of it. Is there any other way I can sign up and she will still get the credit for it?
If you demo has a website you can sign up through that and you will be in her downline- you can even order sneak peak items on your starter kit order.

I love this years catalog! I love the fresh look of it with the colors and stamps~
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If you demo has a website you can sign up through that and you will be in her downline- you can even order sneak peak items on your starter kit order.

I love this years catalog! I love the fresh look of it with the colors and stamps~
Well big bummer! My demo just dropped by with all the info I need BUT if I become a demo then it would be pointless for me to stay in the stamp club she has; which is no good...I would not be able to afford being a hobby demo and paying $25 a month to be in the club plus the fact that ordering from her would mean I would be paying full price, right? Am I thinking this through correctly? Hmmm...I joined her club to get out of the house, do something and meet people as I pretty much know no one after living here for 6 years!
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I believe that this is a very popular misconception. The truth is that fewer than 2% of the people in direct sales are showing any kind of a profit. Would you ever knowingly take a job in which fewer that 2% of the employees made any money? Check out PinkTruth.com. It's a real eye-opener.
On the REALITY side, you probably will not make any money if you sign up.

On the SUNSHINE side, you make more than money: you make friends, you make a connection to your artistic side, you make memories with convention and regionals, and you make lots of your friends and family happy when you surprise them with your beautiful/cute handmade crafts and cards.

This is great TEMPORARILY. Know when to quit. Know where to financially draw the line with your spending. Then it will be GREAT!

There are so many people on this thread saying: "Your wishlist is so long. You should sign up!" That is a deceptive thing to say. You should not join just because your wishlist is long. Signing up is going to give you a big discount at first. Then you will drop? Do you feel right about that ethically? I had a lady sign and drop with me three times. It just never felt ethically right to me. She has to live with herself--it was her decision.

That is why we all are continuing to talk about this.
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This statement is true, but if a person wanted to make a living selling SU! Products it can be done. It is work like any other sales job but it has and can be done.

I work my business part time and I do great for a part time job. I pay taxes on a profit. I also enjoy the benefits of being a demo, I've got the best of both worlds - free and discounted product, free vacations, extra money to help pay for extras for my family and a hobby that I still love.

This business isn't for everyone but just because it didn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for everyone.
Yes it can be done. I didn't say it couldn't. I said it is rare. Please don't quote what I never said.

Please re-read my complete post; I said it is the rare person who is that successful. I also never said because it didn't work for me, it doesn't work for everyone. I said it takes a stronger personality than mine. I said there is no magic mantra that makes it happen.

I'm glad you are successful you are one of the rare ones!
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I believe that this is a very popular misconception. The truth is that fewer than 2% of the people in direct sales are showing any kind of a profit. Would you ever knowingly take a job in which fewer that 2% of the employees made any money? Check out PinkTruth.com. It's a real eye-opener.
According to FORBES Magazine: The real business of multilevel marketing is not the product or service being peddled… it’s the recruiting.

So be careful before you sign up!
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As someone who was once a demo for more than six years, I have to say that I really love the new direction of SU. I love the new look of the catalogs, the website, the blogs. Very fresh and modern! While the look of the product hasn't changed immensely, the presentation has improved greatly.

I loved the look of the new Gingham Garden line. That was super cute! I also think the new In Colors are right on trend.
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As someone who was once a demo for more than six years, I have to say that I really love the new direction of SU. I love the new look of the catalogs, the website, the blogs. Very fresh and modern! While the look of the product hasn't changed immensely, the presentation has improved greatly.

I loved the look of the new Gingham Garden line. That was super cute! I also think the new In Colors are right on trend.
I love the new look too. A lot more modern and very appealing to the eye.
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As someone who was once a demo for more than six years, I have to say that I really love the new direction of SU. I love the new look of the catalogs, the website, the blogs. Very fresh and modern! While the look of the product hasn't changed immensely, the presentation has improved greatly.

I loved the look of the new Gingham Garden line. That was super cute! I also think the new In Colors are right on trend.

The new Gingham garden line is my favorite!


And I agree SU is moving in a Fresher Direction.
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Well big bummer! My demo just dropped by with all the info I need BUT if I become a demo then it would be pointless for me to stay in the stamp club she has; which is no good...I would not be able to afford being a hobby demo and paying $25 a month to be in the club plus the fact that ordering from her would mean I would be paying full price, right? Am I thinking this through correctly? Hmmm...I joined her club to get out of the house, do something and meet people as I pretty much know no one after living here for 6 years!
Talk to your demo about options. Perhaps she can find another club member for the remaining months to fill your spot. Or perhaps with the new catalog coming out, she'll fill your spot herself.
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My catalogue should be here this week. I'm so excited to see it in person. I'm sure I will love it when it comes more than when I saw the online version.
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How ever I do have a question about one of the cards in the catalog? It's on page 134. Bottom corner. the green card. What die cut did they use and what Stamp set did they use on the die cut?
We looked through the catalog for along time and couldn't find the die cut or stamp they used. "

I believe the card is the Labels Collection Framelit die. I'm still searching for the stamp. I don't have the physical catalogue so it may take me a bit.
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How ever I do have a question about one of the cards in the catalog? It's on page 134. Bottom corner. the green card. What die cut did they use and what Stamp set did they use on the die cut?
We looked through the catalog for along time and couldn't find the die cut or stamp they used. "

I believe the card is the Labels Collection Framelit die. I'm still searching for the stamp. I don't have the physical catalogue so it may take me a bit.
Hey Ok, this is insane but I THINK they inked up the memorable moments outline and omitted the sides and stamped them in a row (which looks hard enough) and then HAND CUT them out and drew in the insides free hand. I had noticed it before and went hmmmmm? But didn't look into it. Yikes! Guess you can do that when you have probably a year to make samples for the catalog and get paid to stamp for a living, lol! It's my dream job......however I wouldn't ever make a card like that, lol! HTH!
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Talk to your demo about options. Perhaps she can find another club member for the remaining months to fill your spot. Or perhaps with the new catalog coming out, she'll fill your spot herself.
Some demos really hate to see their best customers become demos themselves. This may be the case here.
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Some demos really hate to see their best customers become demos themselves. This may be the case here.
Hadn't thought about that but since I'd only be a hobby demo I can see where it wouldn't really be good for her for me to be a demo. But I'm actually fine with not becoming a demo since I weighed out the benefits versus just being a customer. I love getting to be a hostess twice a year and what I earn from that is good enough. Maybe I can just quit buying clothes (not that I get to do that often!) and use that money for more stamps and such...I mean who needs clothes, right?! I have my priorities! lol
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Got my new catty last night and I'm still drooling. I would never sign up as a demo because I am my friends best customer (aside from herself!) and she would have nothing. She is awesome and we have such fun so I'm happy with the way things are. She is very generous.
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I like a lot of stamps in the new catalogue, but am willing to wait several years for them to appear on Ebay (or on my demo's sale table when they retire) for cheaper prices - or I am hoping that in coming years they'll offer more stamp sets in photopolymer. I am seeing a lot of lovely stamps that are made to use with each other (like sentiments that go "inside" another stamp) or with a diecut. I have to keep reminding myself that these stamps are not clear so would be a little more difficult (for ME, because I can't stand using the stamp-a-ma-jig) to use.

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I have one co-worker who sells Tastefully Simple, and I have the impression that she tries as hard as she can - she's recruited several people and she books parties regularly, and this is all part-time (she has a full-time job - well, she IS my co-worker). That said, I think that if she is THIS good at selling, she would make a ton more money as a part-time saleswoman at a car or RV dealership, or as a real estate agent. Actually, I think she would make more money or the at least the same amount if she were to get a part-time job at even a minimum-wage job.

The other five SU! demos I know of, two seem pretty successful; one is retired on a comfortable income/pension and does it full-time for fun. The other has two other jobs - she's a sewing professor and a seamstress for a high-end store. The other three are just starting out or are hobby demos.

I also think there is nothing wrong with someone signing up just to be a hobby demo to get the huge discount, and then dropping after that, and doing that multiple times. Basically anytime anyone signs up, SU! is getting another guaranteed amount of income, which I think is a pretty good business deal for SU! as well as the "revolving" demo.
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I don't see anything wrong with signing up and then dropping because SU totally allows it. I haven't done it. I was a demo for two years, but when I signed up I thought I maybe would be in for only one quarter.

I have thought about doing it again because SU has a great incentive to join right now.
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Hey Ok, this is insane but I THINK they inked up the memorable moments outline and omitted the sides and stamped them in a row (which looks hard enough) and then HAND CUT them out and drew in the insides free hand. I had noticed it before and went hmmmmm? But didn't look into it. Yikes! Guess you can do that when you have probably a year to make samples for the catalog and get paid to stamp for a living, lol! It's my dream job......however I wouldn't ever make a card like that, lol! HTH!
I agree with everything you said except I don't think they omitted the sides. It looks like the sides overlap and create the oval/circle spaces between the hand-drawn lines/plaid. Which makes it a little easier, but you still have the lining up and cutting out to deal with...
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I agree with everything you said except I don't think they omitted the sides. It looks like the sides overlap and create the oval/circle spaces between the hand-drawn lines/plaid. Which makes it a little easier, but you still have the lining up and cutting out to deal with...


That's what made it hard to figure out which stamp they used.


Thanks for clearing this up for us!
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Could be....I didn't look super close at it I guess!
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One thing I do know. Is in order to make money with any Direct Sale Company. You NEED to be a good sale's person!

If you live in a small town. Or a Big Town. You really need to connect with other's. Post flyers in other places. Have a Internet site. Use a newsletter to let your customer's know what the special are from that month.

Maybe to do a reward system for your customer's. Make them feel good about buying from you as a Demo.



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I LOVE this thread! I hardly ever venture from the demo side. SO many interesting comments regarding Direct Sales, holding workshops, product! I have to come to this side of the forums WAY more often.
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Ok I have a question about Stampin' Up!

When one joins. Does one pay for shipping? & Sales tax's on Kit??

I'm looking into joining. And I want to make sure I have enough money set aside for it.

I'll be joining for extra spending money.
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No shipping or tax on the kit. What you see it what you get.
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I would love a look at the new catalog if some one wud pm a link....TIA
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