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Old 03-07-2012, 10:16 AM   #1
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I'm having trouble using the SU Doily Die with my Big Shot. The die is not cutting all the way through. Also it's difficult to get the cuts that did cut to punch out. I have tried several papers & card stock and even used a shim. Do I need to use thick paper or thin paper? Is anyone else having problems or is it just me?

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One of the things Stampin' Up! mentioned is using a shim.. maybe try a thicker shim. Once it is cut out, if you roll it around a pencil (loosely) that will help all the little pieces to come out. I hope that helps!
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Here is what was posted on the demo website:


Tips and Tricks for the New Paper Doily Sizzlits Die
January 27, 2012

With the Paper Doily Sizzlits Die (item 125592) you and your customers can now create the intricate designs you've grown to love with our Sizzlits Dies, in a new, larger size. Some of you have asked questions about the die and we're here to help answer those questions.

A few tips and tricks:

Because of variations in materials, you will most likely need to use a shim (such as piece of card stock) when you send it through the Big Shot.
The detailed intricacy comes with a little added work. The negative pieces will not come out automatically when you cut the die.
It may take a little time to remove all the cut pieces from the die-cut paper. Remove the pieces by poking or punching them out. Carefully, push the pieces through the cut design and remove them from the back. Make sure you work from the front side of the doily (the side that was face-down when it was cut) and push the pieces through; if you try to pull them out from the front or if you push them through from the back side, the doily might tear. To make it easier, gently roll the die-cut paper to pop out some of the larger pieces.
Push the pieces out using the Paper-Piercing Tool or the small end of the Simply Scored Stylus.
The front side will look completely cut through, however, the back side may not. This is normal with this die, and if you follow the directions of removing the small pieces you will find that the die has cut through the paper.
Because of the intricate design of this die, small pieces might stick in the foam on the actual die. Clear all small pieces from the die before using it again. This will ensure you get a clean cut every time. Remove the remaining pieces by using your Paper-Piercing Tool, being careful not to tear the foam on the die.
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:25 AM   #4
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There's also a discussion about that die here: SU Sizzlet Doily
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Here is another video:

Stamp & Scrap with Frenchie: Paper Doily Die from Stampin'Up!
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Old 03-07-2012, 11:31 AM   #6
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Thank you all for the information. I will keep trying until I get it right!
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The second-last post in the thread I linked to, the poster said her demo exchanged it for another die, and the second one cut a lot better than the first. Is there any chance that you'd be able to exchange yours and see if another one worked better?
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The second-last post in the thread I linked to, the poster said her demo exchanged it for another die, and the second one cut a lot better than the first. Is there any chance that you'd be able to exchange yours and see if another one worked better?
I could ask to see if anyone else in our group purchased one. I'm not sure if I'd ask for an exchange yet.

Thanks for the input!
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Old 03-07-2012, 03:49 PM   #9
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My doily is not from the first batch but I still had to use a shim in my Big Shot, which I have never done with any other Sizzlit. In fact, one spot did not cut well even with the shim, so I cut a 3" circle and glued it to the back of the die.

I did wonder it I had new plates (mine are super worn) if my results would have been different, but CS shims are cheaper than plates, KWIM?
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Try running it though with wax paper first then the cardstock will come out easier...It does need a shim or to depending on your machine and plates!
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My first suggestion is to call the SU 1-800# and complain. I know many of the demos have no idea what to say, but let head office know you have a problem.

Cheery Lynn who sells far more intracate doily dies sell metal plates to use instead of shims - see their video on their website or YouTube. I know a couple of people who have used the SU doily and a metal plate with their Big Shot and another with her CuttleBug and have wonderful results.
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Fortunately, I did not buy my doily die because I've given up. I first tried with no shim -- nothing; then used the wax paper -- nothing; then I put on the packing tape -- nothing; then I tried the packing tape with a shim -- nothing. I've given it to another SU patron who does not have a cutter of any kind but is in a card class of SU people so she's going to see if they can get it to work at their next class. If not, I certainly won't sell it but maybe give it away. I'm beginning to think it's my CB. Oh well, can't win them all

have a great weekend, stampers.

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Fortunately, I did not buy my doily die because I've given up. I first tried with no shim -- nothing; then used the wax paper -- nothing; then I put on the packing tape -- nothing; then I tried the packing tape with a shim -- nothing. I've given it to another SU patron who does not have a cutter of any kind but is in a card class of SU people so she's going to see if they can get it to work at their next class. If not, I certainly won't sell it but maybe give it away. I'm beginning to think it's my CB. Oh well, can't win them all

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I know exactly how you feel, because I returned a Cheery Lynn doily die for the same reasons. It was suggested I buy a metal plate a set of "dental tools" to poke out the little bits - that would have added an additional $18.00 + shipping to the cost of my doily die, so I returned it. I've since been following the various SU complaints and three of my friends have solved the problem by using a metal plate, including one using a CB.
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My mother bought the die and we have been having trouble with it too. We only have the Cuttle Bug. We had as many layers as could fit through the Bug to the point I was afraid we might break a plate, or the machine trying to get it through. No luck getting everything cut. And really - who has the time to sit and poke out every little piece, especially when they aren't cut enough to actually pop out? Way too time consuming. We are sending it back. Not worth it. You can use actual doilies for the same result and a lot less hassle.
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I have had different results on my two Big Shots. It works well on the newer one (even with old, warped plates) and really poorly on the older (new plates, old plates, shims - no difference). I have to believe it has something to do with the way the machines loosen up over time.

Do they loosen up???????????
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:32 AM   #16
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Thanks for the information. I'm having better luck with using a shim and using designer paper. The SU cardstock is not working well and when I use a shim with the cardstock it's really hard to send thur the machine. I guess I was looking for something quicker.
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I have had different results on my two Big Shots. It works well on the newer one (even with old, warped plates) and really poorly on the older (new plates, old plates, shims - no difference). I have to believe it has something to do with the way the machines loosen up over time.

Do they loosen up???????????
I'm not sure about this.
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Fortunately, I did not buy my doily die because I've given up. I first tried with no shim -- nothing; then used the wax paper -- nothing; then I put on the packing tape -- nothing; then I tried the packing tape with a shim -- nothing.

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Those are exactly the same things I tried. I wondered about the paper I was using and tried some SU paper that was better. That paper is a bit thicker... but yet one more sheet of cs as a shim was too thick and I couldn't run through my Big Shot without forcing it.
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I can tell you what I did to get mine to work.. I placed a thin sheet of metal flashing beneath my die and ran it through the big shot machine,cut side up and between the two plastic plates. You still may have to roll the die cut around a marker to get the tiny pieces to pop out but now they come out.
If you feel resistance when rolling it thru the machine stop... if you break your big shot machine, it won't be covered by the warranty as flashing hasn't been tested by su or sizzix or provocraft, etc... my machine is very loose, so I had to use a piece of flashing with a shim... I made a permanent shim by cutting a piece of sticky sheet the same size as the flashing and removing only one of the paper covers from the sheet (leave the other en tact). The flashing can be sharp along the edges, so I used a 1/4" corner rounder to round the edges and make it safer. I think the reason it works is because both plastic plates and the doily die are flexed when pushed through the machine... the flashing is more solid??
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I thought about it and decided that for 20ish dollars it should cut out all the pieces. My demo tried my die in her machine and it didn't cut in there either. Then she gave me her die to try in my machine and it works. So she is letting me keep hers and she's going to send mine back.
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I have to say I gave up on the large doily die. I can barely us it on thin paper. I've had it for 6 months and have barely used it because I thought it was me. I don't mind the pieces that get stuck in the die you can take those out with a piece of tap. But getting the die to cut all the shapes all the way through the paper is very labor intensive that I finally gave up and returned it. I love it but it is not manufactured well at all. I have talked to several other loyal SU stampers and they have had the same problems. It is better to return the die so SU knows there is a huge failure of this product. I turned mine back in with my failed sample so they can troubl should the problem.

I hope they can get it fixed. I did find there are other company's with complex doily dies. I wonder if they are having similar problems getting their dies to cut through?
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Mine has never worked well either....I have the metal shims and have tried both the CB and the Big Shot. It is a pretty die. It is frustrating that it doesnt work.
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Mine has never worked well either....I have the metal shims and have tried both the CB and the Big Shot. It is a pretty die. It is frustrating that it doesnt work.
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Amber, I hope you have complained directly to SU and returned your die to SU so they'd know we are all having problems with the die. Complaining to my demo did NOTHING - she hates to complain to the company because she LOVES the company so much. I went over her head and called the toll free number myself.

I have read on other forums they had been replacing them, however when I returned mine, that wasn't an option, they asked me to choose another product in its place.
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Thanks MaggyMay....I just might have to do that.
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I experienced problems wih this die also. I ran it through my EBosser, and it stuck so that I had to return the machine to get it out. I ran it through my Big Shot, and it also got stuck in the middle. Fortunately, I was able to back it out slowly from the Big Shot. I have emailed Stampin UP about it. I do not know yet what their reply will be. I am so annoyed with this, that I do not want it anymore. A refund or credit would be great.
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