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Old 03-02-2009, 04:45 AM   #1  
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I've debated about posting this, but I just can't hold it in any longer. Shamrocks have three leaves!! If you give it 4 leaves it is a clover-a lucky clover at that. I remember it by the story that St. Patrick used the shamrock with its 3 leaves to explain the trinity-3 parts of 1 whole.
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Interesting...I was just wondering about that the other day, because you see lots of both this time of year. Thanks for the post, you learn something new every day!
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LOL - I'm guilty of using shamrock for both shapes!

It's kind of like someone last week I think reminding everyone that its St. Paddy's Day not St. Patty's Day. I'm guilty of that one too! I think I'm hopeless - LOL
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Ladies....If you really want to be correct, it's St. Patrick's Day.

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Oh WOW!! I have four cards sitting on my stamping table in plain sight and the stamp says.....Happy St. Patty's Day!! Oh, well it's kind of like the wattle on the turkey not waddle! That's what I thought of. Maybe the shamrock/clover thing also came from the Irish as in the "LUCK" part of a four leaf clover.
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As a voice from Ireland, yes - technically St. Patrick's Day is correct. But here it is also referred to as Paddy's Day - but never, ever, ever, Patty's or St. Patty's . When I see that, I think it must be the same as Cuttlebug becoming Cuddlebug, only in reverse!
And yes, shamrocks, and in fact most clovers, are 3-leaved. A four-leaved one of either is considered lucky because they are rare, very rare. I think it is possible to find a four-leaved shamrock, but the whole shamrock/clover thing is a bit loose as shamrock is really a variety of clover. But in any case, the first part of the Latin name is trifolium, which is, of course, 3 leaves.
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As a voice from Ireland, yes - technically St. Patrick's Day is correct. But here it is also referred to as Paddy's Day - but never, ever, ever, Patty's or St. Patty's . When I see that, I think it must be the same as Cuttlebug becoming Cuddlebug, only in reverse!
And yes, shamrocks, and in fact most clovers, are 3-leaved. A four-leaved one of either is considered lucky because they are rare, very rare. I think it is possible to find a four-leaved shamrock, but the whole shamrock/clover thing is a bit loose as shamrock is really a variety of clover. But in any case, the first part of the Latin name is trifolium, which is, of course, 3 leaves.
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Oh WOW!! I have four cards sitting on my stamping table in plain sight and the stamp says.....Happy St. Patty's Day!! Oh, well it's kind of like the wattle on the turkey not waddle! That's what I thought of. Maybe the shamrock/clover thing also came from the Irish as in the "LUCK" part of a four leaf clover.
Send the stamp back to the maker for a refund - there is no St. Patty/St. Patricia day that I have found. :mrgreen:
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Has anyone seen any inexpensive 3-leaf shamrock charms? I want them for bookmarks.TIA
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You learn something new every day!! Thanks for all the info ladies!
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The school system my children attend uses the Shamrock as the school mascot for all the schools. It is hard to find a good shamrock stamp, most I see are four leaf clovers, which helps me not one bit!
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I guess I need to go change the title of my card. I learn something new everyday. I guess that is what life is all about.
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Sabrina - thanks. That was very interesting !!
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Being part Irish I am always on the lookout for a great stamp set. If anyone knows of one....( other than SU!) I am wanting one.
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Studio G had some, but they were a mixed bag of proper shamrocks, 4-leaved clovers on peculiarly long stems, and both St. Patrick's and St. Patty's Day.
I don't know how they are sold, per series or per single pack. If it's per single pack, you could pick the best.
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If you have shrink plastic, you could make your own very easily/cheaply. I didn't have a clover stamp at all, so I took a Studio G heart and stamped it three times on shrink plastic, then colored with colored pencil. Here's my card with the clover charm. HTH!
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As a voice from Ireland, yes - technically St. Patrick's Day is correct. But here it is also referred to as Paddy's Day - but never, ever, ever, Patty's or St. Patty's . When I see that, I think it must be the same as Cuttlebug becoming Cuddlebug, only in reverse!
And yes, shamrocks, and in fact most clovers, are 3-leaved. A four-leaved one of either is considered lucky because they are rare, very rare. I think it is possible to find a four-leaved shamrock, but the whole shamrock/clover thing is a bit loose as shamrock is really a variety of clover. But in any case, the first part of the Latin name is trifolium, which is, of course, 3 leaves.
YEP, It annoys me too how incorrect things get.
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Thanks so much to you Irish folk for the reminder that it's St. Paddy's Day!! I never knew that!!

My high school's teams were The Shamrocks, too.

I found this site once, http://www.highlandercelticstamps.co...ishdance2.html, looking for Scottish stamps and they have two pages that are Irish Dance and Music.
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Displaying my ignorance here...why Paddy's and not Patty's...
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Actually, my dog just got a quarter-sized charm with a 3-leafed shamrock outlined with light green bling from Petco after he was groomed yesterday. They hooked it onto his collar. It's actually pretty neat!
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Displaying my ignorance here...why Paddy's and not Patty's...
Because Patty is short for Patricia. I know, :rolleyes: Pat is short for Patrick and Patricia, but Patty just doesn't work for Patrick; it's Paddy. Paddy is commonly used as a diminutive for Patrick, like Joe for Joseph.
Come to think of it, I guess the equivalent is that while Jo (without the e, most likely) can be used for Josephine, Josie would not ever be used for Joseph.
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Just to add that the Irish for Patrick is Padraig/Padraic- to me, once I knew that it all made more sense.
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I believe I just heard a collective "Aha. . ." ;)
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I believe I just heard a collective "Aha. . ." ;)
I think you did too.
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Wow - great Info ....The stamp I got from Stampendous says "Happy St. Patty's Day" and not Paddy like it should be, so it's really a wide spread confusion for stamp companies to not spell it properly. You can see it in my gallery if you click below it's an adorable stamp too bad it's not correct lol.

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Some of the stamp companies might read this and get it right for next year. Do you think?
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They certain will get it right if you ask for your money back ;) :lol:
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I just hope my stamp does not offend someone ...I swear 'I' didn't make it lol.

Yes asking for our money back = maybe a change??? Wishful thinking
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Yes asking for our money back = maybe a change??? Wishful thinking
Well technically you would be in the right - because the phrase is wrong and thus it is an manufacturing error.

I know I have contacted a manufacturer who has put Patty's Day on their website and told them it was incorrect. There hasn't been a change yet but I'm hopeful.
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I just hope my stamp does not offend someone ...I swear 'I' didn't make it lol.

Yes asking for our money back = maybe a change??? Wishful thinking
Not offended, LOL.
I cringe, yes, but any offense lies at the door of the manufacturer and not the user.

Re River Isis's explanation of P�draig being the Irish for Patrick, I guess I was suffering from a case of not being able to see the wood for the trees.
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Ah yes the joys of St Patty's Day....RiverIsis you have done me proud! It won't cause offense more likely to cause a little confusion! If you are struggling for a shamrock shape i.e a 3 leaf clover, use a heart shaped stamp.



As an aside......The Catholic church in Ireland would not let couples get married during Lent, St Patrick's Day is a holy day and a day when a couple could get married. My parents got married on St Patrick's Day.....I think it is so sweet that they could not 'wait' until after Lent was over! St Patrick's Day in our house was always a big celebration...being Irish and it being my parents wedding anniversary!
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LOL - I'm guilty of using shamrock for both shapes!

It's kind of like someone last week I think reminding everyone that its St. Paddy's Day not St. Patty's Day. I'm guilty of that one too! I think I'm hopeless - LOL
I think St. Patty's Day is actually more accurate. It's short for Saint Patrick's Day, not Saint Padricks Day.
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I think St. Patty's Day is actually more accurate. It's short for Saint Patrick's Day, not Saint Padricks Day.
Patty is short for Patricia - the 17th of March is not St Patricia's Day.

Paddy is short for Patrick, Padraig, Padraic (Irish for Patrick).

There is no Padrick.

St Patrick's Day celebrates the patron saint of Ireland. Paddy is a shortened, endearment for Patrick/Padraig/Padraic.

This is not my personal opinion. But based on fact and discussion with many Irish people.
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