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After reading here how people are using Neenah Solar White 80# and Copics, a friend & I bought some.
I am having problems with the Copic ink bleeding. I used Memento Tuxedo Black ink, even let it dry overnight. I live in a low humidity area (20% yesterday) so humidity is not the problem. When I color, the Copic ink bleeds and so does the Memento. Is there a definite right side of the paper - have tried using it as it comes out of the ream on the seam side and also flipped it over but still have a problem. I have to barely touch the tip of the pen to the paper or else the color goes all over. i.e. the hair color bleeds into the face, the dress/shirt color bleeds into the arm/leg, etc.
Bought some Kiki LaRue, Trevor, Emma etc. stamps. W to use a colored image on some cards.
My friend hasn't really used her paper and Copics yet so can't compare results.
Have the Original, Ciao and Sketch style markers. Because of the colors availability, I have the various style markers. They all bleed!
HELP!!!!
Last edited by Crafter 4 Life; 06-13-2010 at 03:08 PM..
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I use that paper with sketch Copics and Memento Tuxedo Black. I don't even wait any time to let it dry and have had no problems.
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Hmmm. I'm not sure what to say. I used copics and memento black on Neenah Solar White #80 - and I do not have that problem. You aren't using your blender pen, are you? That will cause them to bleed. There is no right or wrong side of the paper.
If you are colouring very fine areas, copics will bleed a little no matter what. But you seem to to be describing a lot of bleeding - which I have no problem with. I too have all styles of copics.
Have you stamp store or copic store around you to check one things? I know taking a couple of classes in copic colouring with a certified instructor sure made a difference to me. .
Sounds like you're getting too much Copic ink coming out when you color---try taking the pen caps off of both sides---this will regulate the pressure in the pen.
Other than that, I'm not sure what the problem is---sorry! Hope you get it figured out because Copics can be so much fun!!!!
I am somewhat new at this--use the same products as you and WAS having the same problem but upon ready here someone suggested using a lighter hand when coloring which I did and am not having that problem any longer--also a suggestion of putting a piece of paper under your coloring--maybe that helps soak up extra ink so it does not bleed (?). In summery try using a lighter hand when coloring, sure made a difference for me. HTH!!
I love Neenah Solar Classic Crest .... and my all-time preferred ink for Copics on both Neenah Cardstock, Gina K.'s Pure Luxury, and other brands as well is Memento Tuxedo Black (or Memento Rich Cocoa if I need the image to be inked in brown).
Marianne Walker (Ms. Copics) does suggest having an absorbent surface beneath your cardstock, rather than a slippery surface. Perhaps that will be helpful to you. (I don't do that here, but then I haven't had a bleeding issue at all.) ;)
If you're blending a lot then the ink will push OUT once it's saturated the paper going down. Try using the "feathering" technique instead of the light-dark-light technique and you should minimize the bleeding. I too used to get bleeding, but started using a lighter hand and feathering more.. Works really well!
What a bummer! I use Neenah and Momento ink too with NO problems with smearing. I even use Neenah cardstock in my printer when I'm printing digi stamps and don't even have to let that dry either! I wonder what's causing yours to smear? Interesting!
Have tried the lighter touch but will try the suggestion to not color right up against the inked outline and let the bleeding reach the outer edge.
Will keep trying because I do love the coverage you get with the Copics. Will try coloring with a piece of scrap computer paper under the image and see if it helps.
I did take a Copic class with a friend. Neither of use thought the class was worth the $45 we spent. Sorry to sound so negative but this particular teacher didn't seem to know beyond the VERY basics. I have gotten more just by blog hopping and watching You Tube videos.
Last edited by Crafter 4 Life; 06-14-2010 at 01:15 PM..
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Do you live in a humid place? Sometimes my paper will bleed when its super humid in the house. You can take a craft iron to your paper and that will help with the humidity. I didn't realize what the problem was until Sally Lynn McDonald talked about it at the Copic Certification class I took just a couple of months ago. She suggested the craft iron and it really worked.
Have tried the lighter touch but will try the suggestion to not color right up against the inked outline and let the bleeding reach the outer edge.
Will keep trying because I do love the coverage you get with the Copics. Will try coloring with a piece of scrap computer paper under the image and see if it helps.
I did take a Copic class with a friend. Neither of use thought the class was worth the $45 we spent. Sorry to sound so negative but this particular teacher didn't seem to know beyond the VERY basics. I have gotten more just by blog hopping and watching You Tube videos.
Yes, I think the classes that offered do vary in quality. I know in my area, one place was offering classes and what they taught was quite contrary to what the copic certified teacher taught me in the classes I went to myself.
The lady that taught the class that I attended had certifed with Marianne Walker a couple of years ago. She seemed very good. I was totally the dummy of the class!!!
I always tell my students to test a lot of different papers. One that works well for some people might not work well for some others. It all depends on our inking style.
I personally love a soft paper... (Like Neenah), but I color VERY quickly and with a very light hand, so I don't use a lot of ink.
If you are coloring more slowly or using a heavier hand (when I color, the brush tip doesn't bend at all), then you might want to try a denser paper.
One style/way/technique isn't any "more right" than another... just different and you have to adjust your supplies to work best with your style.
Take the tips here... (put a piece of scratch paper underneath, speed up a bit, use a lighter touch) and see how it goes. The more you use the markers the more comfortable you will get and the less ink you will need to use to make smooth blends.
If you continue to be frustrated with the Copic ink feathering outside the stamped lines... give a different paper a try. (Prism Simply Smooth, Gina K Luxury, Paper Trey, Couture Cardstock)... there are a lot of different options out there... it's just a matter of finding one that you like and works for you.
Happy Coloring!
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Last edited by Colleen Schaan; 06-21-2010 at 03:12 AM..
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The same thing happened to me when I first started coloring with Copics. The more I practiced, the less my paper bled. I began to get better and use a lighter touch. Neenah is no longer my first choice for paper. I use it to practice because it is cheaper than al lot of the other papers.
You are likely oversaturating the cardstock by applying either too much ink, or too much pressure to the marker. Check the back of the paper. If the marker has shown all the way through, and may even have discolored the surface under it, there is too much ink.
Remember, all paper is fiber. The higher the pound weight of the cardstock, the more fiber. But it can only soak up so much ink, much like a paper towel. Once it is overly wet, there isn't anywhere for it to go other then outside the lines to the fibers around it.
Neenah Classic Crest Solar White & Copics
