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Old 02-20-2012, 06:04 PM   #1
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Default Please abbreviate St Patrick's Day correctly

Just a gentle reminder, that it is that time of year when many people do St Patrick's Day projects.

The correct abbreviation for St Patrick's Day would be Paddy for Padraig/Patrick and not Patty which is the shortened form for Patricia.

I know a lot of retailers even get it wrong and there are plenty of wrong stamps around.

Hope that helps and may the luck of the Irish be with you.
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As a mother of a Padraig, thanks for the reminder!
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Omg! Thank you i never knew that

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THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It drives me nuts...as a born and bred Paddy!


I was in Michaels with SIL at the weekend...conversation went along the lines of...."I don't know who Patty is but the 17th of March has already been taken"
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On a related tangent...

When you meet someone (either in real life, or online) named either Patrick or Patricia, please do not assume that they are called Pat or Patty unless they are introduced to you by the nickname. It's OK to ask if they would prefer to be called by a nickname.

(Really, IMO, that should go for any name that could be nicknamed.)
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While we are at it .. there is no D in congratulations.
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On a related tangent...

When you meet someone (either in real life, or online) named either Patrick or Patricia, please do not assume that they are called Pat or Patty unless they are introduced to you by the nickname. It's OK to ask if they would prefer to be called by a nickname.

(Really, IMO, that should go for any name that could be nicknamed.)
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And I'm there all the way with the OP . Love Lydia's shamrock heart!
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Interesting thread; this kind of error drives me a bit nuts too!

At work staff will say they are "orientating" new staff. The new staff member is on "orientation"; we are "orienting" them to their new position. In almost 21 years, I have NEVER heard anyone get this right! I really need to figure out why this bothers me.... LOL
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Just received my set of rub-ons from My Sentiments Exactly, and they have St. Patty's instead of St. Paddy's!
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Interesting thread; this kind of error drives me a bit nuts too!

At work staff will say they are "orientating" new staff. The new staff member is on "orientation"; we are "orienting" them to their new position. In almost 21 years, I have NEVER heard anyone get this right! I really need to figure out why this bothers me.... LOL
Over here in the UK the word 'orientation' has been in use since 1830! We are always orientating ourselves to new environs or situations and quite often may have to reorientate ourselves
I have noticed in recent years that many US based or led books/films introduced 'oreinting' and I have to keep mentally correcting this word. The root of the word comes from the French and we added 'ate' to the word!!!! So orientating/orientation is quite correct
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Common misspellings are a pet peeve of mine too. One of my worst is a large sign for an auto repair shop on my way to work that claims they do 'electronical' work on all vehicles. What kills me is not only did the owner of the shop not know electronical is not a word, neither did the sign painter, ha ha!
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Ok, how about "consensus of opinion"...

And "realtor" is not pronounced "real-a-tor"...
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A Chinese restaurant near me has a sign over their Mongolian grill, saying, in bright bold neon, MOGOLIAN GRILL. Makes me scratch my head...

Sorry we've highjacked the thread, hopefully there will be many St. Patrick's Day greetings more properly worded this year because of your helpful reminder!
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A Chinese restaurant near me has a sign over their Mongolian grill, saying, in bright bold neon, MOGOLIAN GRILL. Makes me scratch my head...

Sorry we've highjacked the thread, hopefully there will be many St. Patrick's Day greetings more properly worded this year because of your helpful reminder!
Maybe real-a-tors and nuke-u-lar scientists eat there after orientating!
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Maybe real-a-tors and nuke-u-lar scientists eat there after orientating!
while they are studying math-a-matics!

Sorry, couldn't resist. I love threads like this.
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Years ago, dh broke me of the habit of saying tuna fish, when he would ask me if a tuna fish was anything like a chicken bird. He also goes a little nuts when someone mentions an atm machine. I love him, though!

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And there's no "r" in "wash" or "Washington."
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And there's no "r" in "wash" or "Washington."
I was soooo going to say this!! I can't even believe how many Washingtonians say "Warshington"

Did not know about the Paddy/Patty thing so thanks to the OP for informing me! I have been edumacated.
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Part of my Moddy Christmas purchase was a book called Origins of the Specious (thanks, everybody ). She says that nuk-u-lar is now so common that Merriam-Webster is listing as a variant (disapproved of by many but in widespread use).
I'm really enjoying the book - all my other English usage books are written by British writers, it's interesting reading one written by an American largely for the American market.
Mind the Gaffe (Penguin Guide to Common Errors in English) says orientate is acceptable in British English but orient is still preferred. Trask is a bit more of a purist and doesn't see the point in introducing an unnecessary syllable that wasn't originally there.
And it was so funny - I was thinking over the Patty/Paddy thing last night as I was falling asleep. And I suddenly remembered when I went to Irish college when I was 14, and one of the girls staying in the same house was called Patricia but she liked to go by Paddy! We must not have had to translate our names into Irish.
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thanks for the tip.

and please, if you are talking about paper, please don't call it stationary...
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Voila is pronounced with a "V" and is NOT "walla". This drives me crazy! I am of French heritage and cannot believe how many people mispronounce this word. Great thread!
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On a related tangent...

When you meet someone (either in real life, or online) named either Patrick or Patricia, please do not assume that they are called Pat or Patty unless they are introduced to you by the nickname. It's OK to ask if they would prefer to be called by a nickname.

(Really, IMO, that should go for any name that could be nicknamed.)
Love this one. My mother is a Patricia and HATES to be called Patty. She is fond of saying that the only ones she "allows" to call her Patty are under 4' tall- she is Grandma Patty to all 4 of her grandchildren- though in reality only 1 of the 2 is still under 4' tall since my 2 "children" are both adults now and my brother's daughter is at least 5'7" tall
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I cringe when I see a 4 leaf clover with Happy St. Patrick's Day.....St. Patrick did not use a 4 leaf clover to explain the Holy Trinity!

I am guilty of putting an "r" in wash. I'll never overcome it!
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thanks for the tip.

and please, if you are talking about paper, please don't call it stationary...


But sometimes stationery IS stationary. ***tee hee***

The way that I remember the proper spelling for stationery [paper that you write on], is that envelope starts with an "e" and if you're using stationery, you most certainly will be using an envelope.

Beverly, PLEASE.......not "Bev."
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Love this thread! I can't help it, I just can't....

Do NOT get me started on the misuse of apostrophes! Photos does not have an apostrophe! If the full word "photographs" does not have an apostrophe, why would the shortened verson of the word?????

If you want to drive me right over the edge, show me a sign or a newspaper ad with a misused or misplaced apostrophe!

P.S. I don't say "Warshington!"
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Oh, I'm with you on all of these! I'll add a few for fun...

Do you know how many adults say, "ValentiMes?" Listen. I'm telling you, there are so many ADULTS that say it.

Of. It's a preposition. Not a verb. The verb is "have." It isn't "of" So should've is pronounced and looks like smashing should and have together. It isn't should "of" and it certainly isn't spelled that way.

Jewelry. It's Jew-el-ry. It is not Jew-ler-y.

Oh, and if you have to choose between an apostrophe and not using one because you're not sure? Leave it out. Seriously. You've got a better shot at it being right. Just sayin'. Or, should that be just sayin? hee hee


P.S. I am fully aware that "you've got" is also incorrect. That's a bit of self-deprecating humor there. Just to keep it light. Thought you oughtta know.
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I came back to edit and the button is gone.

I'm sorry. There was absolutely no excuse for me going off like that. I have REASONS (in the middle of editing projects and my eyes keep bleeding), but they are no excuse.

Just ignore me and forgiveness is always appreciated. There's a lot (not alot ) in this world that is far more important than if someone uses have instead of "of" or pronounces jewelry correctly (even if it is better for my sanity if they do...)
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Do NOT get me started on the misuse of apostrophes! Photos does not have an apostrophe! If the full word "photographs" does not have an apostrophe, why would the shortened verson of the word?????

If you want to drive me right over the edge, show me a sign or a newspaper ad with a misused or misplaced apostrophe!

P.S. I don't say "Warshington!"
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If nuke-u-lar is now in Websters, then the end times are near!

And thanks to the OP for the lesson. I had never heard about the Patty/Paddy distinction. It's amazing how there's always something new to learn about English usage.
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Love this one. My mother is a Patricia and HATES to be called Patty. She is fond of saying that the only ones she "allows" to call her Patty are under 4' tall- she is Grandma Patty to all 4 of her grandchildren- though in reality only 1 of the 2 is still under 4' tall since my 2 "children" are both adults now and my brother's daughter is at least 5'7" tall
And I'm the opposite....he..he. I hate to be called Patricia. I always wonder why my mother gave me such a long name. She said she was going to name me Tricia, but at the time my father hated that name. (I'm told it was the current president's daughter's name and my father didn't like that president. Now I'm giving my age away...LOL). Weird thing is that I never even knew my father so my mother should have picked the name she wanted.

Anyway- to the OP. I had no idea it was spelled Paddy. I always spelled it St. Patty's Day. I like to tell hubby that it's my holiday and he'd better be good to me that day....LOL
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Gale - loved that site! Thanks for the link! I do the same thing to my DH and now that he is a college student, he laughs about it!

I took a grammar class in college and we actually got extra credit for finding mistakes in the community. My favorite was a pamplet produced by the university and the professor's reaction: "I guess they don't trust their English professors to edit for them!"
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Anyway- to the OP. I had no idea it was spelled Paddy. I always spelled it St. Patty's Day. I like to tell hubby that it's my holiday and he'd better be good to me that day....LOL
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To the OP ... I'm not Catholic or Irish, so I never gave much thought to St. Patrick's day or its abbreviation. I don't go out drinking, don't cook corned beef, don't decorate with shamrocks or leprechauns and I don't send out green cards with overflowing beer mugs. But this thread did prompt me to learn a bit more about Saint Patrick. It wasn't until this week that I learned about his use of the 3-leaf clover to explain the Holy Trinity. I will never think of St. Patrick's Day the same way again. Thank you!

As for all the misspellings, misplaced apostrophes and misused words ... I don't really have any real pet-peeves (except maybe "walla" for "voila"), which some people might think odd since I used to make my living with writing. I guess I've made enough typos and mistakes over the years that I've learned to be a little more forgiving of others who do.

Also, when you think about it, our English language has evolved due to the misspellings, mispronunciations and misinterpretations by our many generations of forefathers. It's called etymology. One day our great grandchildren might open a dictionary and see the word "walla" with an explanation saying the word derived from the French word "voila".
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Oregon is pronounced "Or-e-gun", not "Or-e-gone". There is not "e" at the end
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We have a very expensive, well thought of private school here in my town called Casady School, that built a big new fancy addition.

There was an elaborate brick gateway and sign that said: "Elementery School." Someone quickly posted a handlettered posterboard sign with an arrow on it that said: "Not a Casady graduate!"
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I used to get really upset when I heard jewluhry and then I moved to Utah where NOTHING is pronounced the way one would think! Hurricane? Yeah, that's hurrikun or herkin. Toole? That's toowilluh to you! And let us not forget Sevier...otherwise known as severe! I think that by the time they came up with Juab, they figured enough was enough because that is pronounced...yep...you guessed it: jewab
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The "congrads" and "congradulations" misspellings drive me right up the wall, and I'm actually a pretty easy-going person.
LOL....this particular one seems to be very common in our area. Especially used on those portable yellow signs on wheels. "Congradulations, Mark & Susie!" or "Congradulations on your graduation, Joe!" Just makes me want to scream!
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:01 PM   #39
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And there's no "r" in "wash" or "Washington."

Guilty...shoot me now!
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I've got a good one for you...my mother pronounces "pizza" as "pintsa". I have no clue how she came up with that but it drives me nuts!
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