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Unread 03-18-2017, 12:17 PM   #3281
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I now am seeing that the Anglican clergy in Australia have been hiding clergy sexual assault just like Catholics. Moral authority? I think not!
Yes, it is disgusting what the churches have covered up to protect their own. Stephanie
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Pope declares evolution and Big Bang Theory to be real
Pope Francis declares evolution and Big Bang theory are real and God is not 'a magician with a magic wand' | The Independent
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"The Big Bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it."
This looks suspiciously like having your cake and eating it too.
Evolution does not require a divine creator - it happens, quite happily, on its own.
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Well, this is still a nice surprise... I'd rather him accept these in his own way rather than insisting that the earth is 10,000 years old and completely denying evolution.
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"The Big Bang, which today we hold to be the origin of the world, does not contradict the intervention of the divine creator but, rather, requires it."
This looks suspiciously like having your cake and eating it too.
Evolution does not require a divine creator - it happens, quite happily, on its own.
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That's what hit me too however this isn't new, it's from 2014. I don't know about Benedict but in general I don't recall this being an issue for a long time.

I see great irony here. In the realm of science, the Pope's words pretty much make it clear that the church is willing to accept that what we once thought we knew must change over time as we learn ever more
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I grew up Catholic with Catholic schools in the fifties and sixties, and learned evolution right along with religious teaching.

I remember in the very early grades, the nuns were saying that the "seven days" of Genesis were basically a metaphor. I remember her saying, "What is a day, to God? It could be a million years."

So, fortunately, at least my religious education caused no problems with science.

I had always assumed all Catholics learned that but have since come to understand that there are some very conservative Catholics out there.
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I have a question.

If De Vos wants the Dept. of Education to fund religious schools, can they please start paying taxes now?
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I have a question.

If De Vos wants the Dept. of Education to fund religious schools, can they please start paying taxes now?
Yeah, that's gonna happen... I think if these private schools want public money they should have to operate like public schools. They must have guidance counselors, special ed programs, after school sports and clubs, music education and band or orchestras. Some may supply these things but I'd guess not very many.
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It depends. It can be a very good religious school with people paying good money to attend, and it will still get money in De Vos' world.

The bad religious schools will get money too, and public schools will be hung out to dry.
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Public schools can't suffer the cuts she wants to make. Religious schools have people who are willing to pay, so once again the white and moneyed will be the ones that get educated.
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It depends. It can be a very good religious school with people paying good money to attend, and it will still get money in De Vos' world.

The bad religious schools will get money too, and public schools will be hung out to dry.
Yes, you're right. There are Very expensive schools that have those things. I'm thinking more about local Catholic or Lutheran elementary. middle and high schools. I'd say that those are the majority of the schools that benefit from vouchers.
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Public schools can't suffer the cuts she wants to make. Religious schools have people who are willing to pay, so once again the white and moneyed will be the ones that get educated.
I have been on a self-imposed news blackout to preserve my mental health. I can't help seeing the occasional headline but that is all. Was she in the news recently?
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Nothing specific in the news, other than even though vouchers have been shown to lower scores in some schools, she doesn't care; they're going to do new studies under 45, I'm sure he'll make sure they support what he wants to see.

And she's taking down protections for student loans, and may be in the process of not releasing people from their student loans after 15 years of service in a lot of jobs.

This was promised to people, and some are already suing over it.
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