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Old 01-01-2011, 08:04 PM   #921
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Hi all!

I can't possible start at the beginning with all of these posts (I'd fall so behind on my swap cards due in 2 weeks!) so just jumping in to introduce myself and will begin following along on whatever the latest discussion is!

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- Raised Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran (WELS synod...pretty extreme in strictness), including a private K-8 school
- Had plenty of experiences with religion that left a bad taste in my mouth
- Decided to call myself atheist sometime in my college years since I didn't want to be associated with certain aspects of religion and didn't feel it was important to follow one belief or another to "do the right thing" in life. So in some ways, I don't think I've been proven there is one true way, and part of it is I just don't care in order to live a good life (or so I try).

-Now 28 and still atheist. Family is all semi-religious, but we avoid the topic for the most part and I just stay quiet during their Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner prayers. Fortunately I'm dating an atheist whose immediate family is also AA, so that helps.
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I went to a public high school, but right before graduation was a ceremony called Baccalaureate (not sure it is spelled that way but it looks right). Maybe everybody has this, but when I asked what the point of it was, I was told it was like a blessing, that there would be clergy there. I didn't go and was, I'm pretty sure, the only one from the class who didn't. It turned out that it was also practice for the graduation ceremony (same seating arrangement, same processional and recessional). So I was a little shaky leading the class back out of the auditorium, but I was still glad I hadn't gone.
Hey! Sun Prairie!!! I went to HS in Marshall. I've moved to the west side of Madison, but I spent plenty of evenings during my HS years at the Sun Prairie Culvers.
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Hi Makalah and welcome from me too! You will certainly find yourself at home here. That is great you are dating an atheist. There is nothing like having solidarity in your world view from your partner.
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Love the Winter Classic Games! So much fun. I'd love to be able to go to one some day. Maybe they'll have one in Detroit.

I was rooting for the Caps (OK, maybe not so much for the Caps but against Sidney Crosby - I cannot stand him).
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We had it EVERY Christmas Eve before my dad passed away. My mom always made something else for anyone who didn't like it, which is the majority of us. Only one of my brothers and an uncle really eat it.
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Hey! Sun Prairie!!! I went to HS in Marshall. I've moved to the west side of Madison, but I spent plenty of evenings during my HS years at the Sun Prairie Culvers.
Hello, neighbor! I actually graduated from high school in Richland Center and lived on the east side of Madison for years before moving to Sun Prairie. But I am familiar with Marshall, my kids love the Little Amerricka amusement park (okay, I'll admit that I love it, too).
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Me in a nutshell:
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- Raised Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran (WELS synod...pretty extreme in strictness), including a private K-8 school
- Had plenty of experiences with religion that left a bad taste in my mouth
- Decided to call myself atheist sometime in my college years since I didn't want to be associated with certain aspects of religion and didn't feel it was important to follow one belief or another to "do the right thing" in life. So in some ways, I don't think I've been proven there is one true way, and part of it is I just don't care in order to live a good life (or so I try).

-Now 28 and still atheist. Family is all semi-religious, but we avoid the topic for the most part and I just stay quiet during their Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner prayers. Fortunately I'm dating an atheist whose immediate family is also AA, so that helps.
Welcome Makalah! Another Wisconsinite saying hello!
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Dang what's up in WI making you all atheists? LOL

Hey Makalah *waves*
I'm in the Bay Area hanging out in the rain today cleaning up from the holidays.
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Hmmm nooo I don't think that's it ROFL

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I think there aren't many open atheists in WI (well, maybe not outside Madison where I live, after all, Freedom From Religion foundation is here), so everyone is forced to resort to the internet to find each other. :P


(I only say this because I can't bear to blame my beloved sharp cheddar and Muenster). :P
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You know it's funny. I was thinking the other day how I'm usually shocked to find someone very outwardly religious. But I'm getting it more often now that my oldest is in school. I was told a few times before winter break how Jesus died for my sins. One kid told me it made him sad. Yeah so not what I think 5 year olds need to be worried about
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You know it's funny. I was thinking the other day how I'm usually shocked to find someone very outwardly religious. But I'm getting it more often now that my oldest is in school. I was told a few times before winter break how Jesus died for my sins. One kid told me it made him sad. Yeah so not what I think 5 year olds need to be worried about
It is interesting to me, having been raised Catholic in the 50s and 60s, to hear things like this. Catholics were very much not into guilting the children. A lot of the fasting and abstinence rules were "not for children under 7." Not that you don't get indoctrinated anyway.....
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It is interesting to me, having been raised Catholic in the 50s and 60s, to hear things like this. Catholics were very much not into guilting the children. A lot of the fasting and abstinence rules were "not for children under 7." Not that you don't get indoctrinated anyway.....
I don't know Wrose... I went to church when my mom went to confession and she explained to me what she did in that little booth. And once you did turn 7 - look out! Going to confession every week so you could get hit by a car and go straight to heaven
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I don't know Wrose... I went to church when my mom went to confession and she explained to me what she did in that little booth. And once you did turn 7 - look out! Going to confession every week so you could get hit by a car and go straight to heaven
That's true. Well, I don't remember that, I mean, I was in Catholic school, so we got prepped over "confession" and "communion" - but it was SO long ago, I don't remember being scared. Just nervous.

But I didn't get that emphasis on Jesus that I seem to see with some religions, ya know?

Remember that mine accident and the grandmother who told the little boy his daddy was found alive because he'd prayed so well? And then discovered his daddy was NOT alive? Wonder how that boy felt. Like he didn't pray well enough? What a heavy thing to drop on a kid. I think he was around 8 but still...
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At our holiday celebration last week, someone pointed out that we should all sin from time to time, because if we didn't, then Jesus died for nothing. Luckily, the company all found that ROFL-worthy. (It's important to know your audience.)
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Had to vent. I'm increasingly disgusted by cable tv running shows about the aliens who are responsible for the pyramids, bible codes, Nostradamus, ghosts,etc. I just heard about the final straw. The Discovery Channel is going to be doing a TV show about exorcisms! The Catholic church is opening their files on exorcisms (what about personnel files, hmmm?) and allowing the best exorcists to comment on the dramatized cases.

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I also hate this sort of thing. That reputable TV channels like Discovery are covering exorcisms is sickening.
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Had to vent. I'm increasingly disgusted by cable tv running shows about the aliens who are responsible for the pyramids, bible codes, Nostradamus, ghosts,etc. I just heard about the final straw. The Discovery Channel is going to be doing a TV show about exorcisms! The Catholic church is opening their files on exorcisms (what about personnel files, hmmm?) and allowing the best exorcists to comment on the dramatized cases.

Does any of this bother anyone else or do you just try to ignore it?
We don't have a dish or cable anymore - I wasn't even aware of this. But it seems strange to me, very tabloid-y.
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I guess I mostly ignore this kind of stuff. There's so much crap on TV; I ignore a lot of it. If I saw an ad, I'd probably make a disparaging remark and then forget about it.
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I actually read/watch a lot of this stuff-agree with the tabloidy thought, especially the tv programmes, very sensationalised- but I suffer from rabid curiosity! It fascinates me what convinces people they are right, and the rest of us wrong. And occasionally I come across little factual gems amongst all the dross. I agree the exorcism progs seem very middle ages- wasn't it not all that long ago that the Catholic church was playing down this activity?I know that to them not believing in the devil is as much a heresy as not believing in god, but I wonder how much the current pope has to do with the revival? Because here is one of those interesting factual nuggets- Before he was elected as pope, Joseph Ratzinger was head of a department within the Roman church known as The Congregation for the pronouncement of the Faith.They decide what language services are given in, who may teach what etc. However, you may know this department by its more sinister middle ages name- The Holy Roman Inquisition. What do they say? ....A rose by any other name......
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Sorry, Wrose, no aspersions being cast, lol.
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Had to vent. I'm increasingly disgusted by cable tv running shows about the aliens who are responsible for the pyramids, bible codes, Nostradamus, ghosts,etc. I just heard about the final straw. The Discovery Channel is going to be doing a TV show about exorcisms! The Catholic church is opening their files on exorcisms (what about personnel files, hmmm?) and allowing the best exorcists to comment on the dramatized cases.

Does any of this bother anyone else or do you just try to ignore it?
It only bothers me if DH takes it seriously.
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I actually read/watch a lot of this stuff-agree with the tabloidy thought, especially the tv programmes, very sensationalised- but I suffer from rabid curiosity! It fascinates me what convinces people they are right, and the rest of us wrong. And occasionally I come across little factual gems amongst all the dross. I agree the exorcism progs seem very middle ages- wasn't it not all that long ago that the Catholic church was playing down this activity?I know that to them not believing in the devil is as much a heresy as not believing in god, but I wonder how much the current pope has to do with the revival? Because here is one of those interesting factual nuggets- Before he was elected as pope, Joseph Ratzinger was head of a department within the Roman church known as The Congregation for the pronouncement of the Faith.They decide what language services are given in, who may teach what etc. However, you may know this department by its more sinister middle ages name- The Holy Roman Inquisition. What do they say? ....A rose by any other name......
The problem for me is that these programs don't usualy include an opposition to the ideas about alien astronauts or whatever. These theories were debunked long ago by people who know more than I do about ancient cultures. What they say sounds plausible because there is no context given.

Yeah, isn't it interesting about how the Inquisition morphed into the The Congration etc etc.?
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Here's something amusing:

Bill O'Reilly Proves God's Existence - Neil deGrasse Tyson - The Colbert Report - 1/6/11 - Video Clip | Comedy Central
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tfs, Kathy.

My favorite line from Colbert: "Like all great theologies, Bill's can be boiled down to one sentence: There must be a God because I don't know how things work."
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Ahh, an interesting interview with Ricky Gervais. (I didn't know he was an atheist.)

YouTube - Ricky Gervais: Atheism Shouldn't Offend - CNN

It's just 3 minutes and 5 seconds.
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:26 AM   #958
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Ahh, an interesting interview with Ricky Gervais. (I didn't know he was an atheist.)

YouTube - Ricky Gervais: Atheism Shouldn't Offend - CNN

It's just 3 minutes and 5 seconds.
Great points he makes - "YES" you can be atheist/agnostic and still have morals!
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:27 AM   #959
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YouTube - Ricky Gervais on Atheism

Another one from Ricky Gervais~
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"I don't believe I'll be rewarded in heaven, but I do believe I'll be rewarded now." In reference to why it is important to be a good, moral person, even without religion. Awesome!
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