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As much as I would like to, I don't keep up with all the posts on here. Can someone tell me what the CE thread is?
CE = Current Events. It's an area of Splitcoast, not a thread. I think it's the next one on the list under Other Stuff>Entertainment. Be careful if you venture in there--it can get very ugly! But it can also be rather entertaining.

The one I was wondering about is TwoPeas? What and where is that? Thanks!
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It's another forum site, mainly scrapbooking, and includes shopping, too. I've only been there a couple of times, so my impression may be incorrect.
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It's another forum site, mainly scrapbooking, and includes shopping, too. I've only been there a couple of times, so my impression may be incorrect.
Oh, I would never have guessed that! I thought it was something here at Splitcoast. Thanks!
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It seems like the bar is set pretty low.
Yes it does seem to be. What would people do if, every time someone said "It's a miracle," someone said, "Really? That qualifies in your book?"

I know some people consider the daily sunrise a miracle. I'd say it's a beautiful treasure, rarely seen by me (night owl) but a miracle? It happens every day. It's science.
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One of my favorite Queen songs:

The Miracle

Every drop of rain that falls in Sahara Desert says it all
It's a miracle
All God's creations great and small
The Golden Gate and the Taj Mahal
That's a miracle
Test tube babies being born
Mothers, fathers dead and gone
It's a miracle

We're having a miracle on earth
Mother nature does it all for us
The wonders of this world go on
The hanging Gardens of Babylon
Captain Cook and Cain and Able
Jimi Hendrix to the Tower of Babel
It's a miracle it's a miracle it's a miracle
It's a miracle

The one thing we're all waiting for is peace on earth - an end to war
It's a miracle we need - the miracle
The miracle we're all waiting for today

If every leaf on every tree could tell a story that would be a miracle
If every child on every street had clothes to wear and food to eat
That's a miracle
If all God's people could be free to live in perfect harmony
It's a miracle

We're having a miracle on earth
Mother nature does it all for us
Open hearts and surgery
(wonders of this world go on)
Sunday mornings with a cup of tea
Super powers always fighting
But Mona Lisa just keeps on smiling
It's a miracle it's a miracle it's a miracle

(wonders of this world go on)
It's a miracle it's a miracle it's a miracle
It's a miracle

The one thing (the one thing) we're all waiting for (we're all waiting for)
Is peace on earth (peace on earth) and an end to war (an end to war)
It's a miracle we need - the miracle
The miracle peace on earth and end to war today

That time will come one day you'll see when we can all be friends
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So in the song, man-made things like the Taj Mahal are called miracles.

Ever want to say to someone, in the words of Inigo Montoya "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
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Hmmm I prefer Fat Bottom Girls

They really do making the rockin world go round you know
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Yes they do, but that one doesn't have a great beat for the treadmill. ROFL

One Vision and I'm Going Slightly Mad are excellent on the treadmill - and I'd never heard either song before! LOL
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Who Wants To Live Forever which was in Highlander is great too
YouTube - Queen - Who Wants to Live Forever
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man his voice just is incredible. It hurts me.
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I know, isn't it incredible? I did not appreciate Freddy Mercury until I saw a live concert DVD several years ago. I liked some Queen songs, but just never looked at him or the group in any detail.

Now when I listen on my iPod, it's amazing how I can hear every note. I love it! I love "Under Pressure" and can now pick out David Bowie's voice in there.
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Oh I picked up Hawking's new book from the library yesterday but haven't started it yet.
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Oh, and in my case it should be flat bottom, don't have much goin on back there unfortunately LOL! Thanks for letting me know what ce stood for also!
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The miraculous rescue of all 33 Chilean miners is difficult to understand from a purely secular perspective. In this day and age of militant atheism, coupled with relentless assaults on Roman Catholicism, it is refreshing to read about the central role that Catholicism played in helping these courageous men survive, and of their enormous gratitude to God.

To those who cling to the superstition that there is no meaning to life beyond sheer material existence, we ask them to reflect on the following testimonials. Just as there are no atheists in foxholes, there are no atheists in trapped mines.
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To those who cling to the SUPERSTITION that there is no meaning to life beyond sheer material existence???? ***? Has the definition of superstition changed since I last looked? I don't disagree that their faith helped them through their ordeal, but I seriously argue that people without their faith would not be as successful.
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It's crazy, Alyson.

People of faith believe in things they can't prove or see, and they think atheists are the ones with a problem. If religions didn't begin their brainwashing at birth, a lot fewer would swallow it.

There ARE atheists in foxholes. Sheesh.

And meaning to life? How about history, legacy, family? Is the superstitious afterlife all they can see???

Give me a freakin break.
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And this afternoon I got my first robo-call proselytization. Yup. Some Baptist minister witnessed on my phone.

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To those who cling to the SUPERSTITION that there is no meaning to life beyond sheer material existence???? ***? Has the definition of superstition changed since I last looked? I don't disagree that their faith helped them through their ordeal, but I seriously argue that people without their faith would not be as successful.
I really don't understand why the Catholic bishops allow that nut to speak for them. Maybe they're afraid that when people hear their bishops saying this stuff out loud they'll start to question their faith. I think he, Bill Donahue, runs this league all by himself. They don't list who their board members are or much at all about who else is involved. But they sell stuff and they do want your money.

The miraculous rescue god gets credit for? What about the people who worked around the clocik to make it happen? Why did god allow it to happen in the first place? What about other people all over the world who are dying in wars or of preventable diseases? I guess god doesn't care about those people.
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I agree with Martha. It seems pretty clear to me that credit for this particular "miracle" goes to the *humans* who planned and executed the rescue, not to mention those who kept searching even after logic would have suggested no one was left alive after the collapse. I would have been happy to give credit to a supernatural power if the miners had levitated out of the mine or something.
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I agree with Martha. It seems pretty clear to me that credit for this particular "miracle" goes to the *humans* who planned and executed the rescue, not to mention those who kept searching even after logic would have suggested no one was left alive after the collapse. I would have been happy to give credit to a supernatural power if the miners had levitated out of the mine or something.
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Ha ha, Martha, I had exactly the same reaction!!!!
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I also hate it when god is credited for the efforts of people. If he gave us free will in order for us to take responsibility for our actions, then he can't take the credit for what we do.
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I found this article and thought it made some excellent points.

One of the conclusions made by the author is that the words "belief" and "believe" are so misunderstood we atheists should avoid using them. This is a conclusion I've come to, as well, but I thought she worded it well:

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Other points include that "not believing in X" is different than "believing in not-X", and I thought she did a particularly good job of using the unicorn analogy.

Here's the article in full: Is Atheism a Belief? | Belief | AlterNet
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I found this article and thought it made some excellent points.

One of the conclusions made by the author is that the words "belief" and "believe" are so misunderstood we atheists should avoid using them. This is a conclusion I've come to, as well, but I thought she worded it well:



Other points include that "not believing in X" is different than "believing in not-X", and I thought she did a particularly good job of using the unicorn analogy.

Here's the article in full: Is Atheism a Belief? | Belief | AlterNet
Great points! I think this works for everyone--not just agnostics and atheists. Big fan of precise language over in this corner.
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I was actually a philosophy and religion major in college (lo, these many years ago), and my religion professor taught me a great deal about writing. One of the things I learned from him that is still important to me is the difference between saying "I think" and saying "I feel." "Thinking" has to do with intellect, and "feeling" has to do with emotion. I suspect that "believing" lies somewhere in between.
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Not really related to belief, but precision.

Saying, "I only drink tea at night" is different from "I drink only tea at night."

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I started Hawkings book today (The Grand Design). I already wrote down something I like, on page 17.

He's talking about how early man had many gods to explain everything. "But with Thales of Miletus about 2,600 years ago, that began to change. The idea arose that nature follows consistent principles that could be deciphered. And so began the long process of replacing the notion of the reign of gods with the concept of a universe that is governed by laws of nature, and created according to a blueprint we could someday learn to read."
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I like it too! Pity Christianity (and a couple of other religions I could mention) got snagged on the 'god' thing and couldn't quite give up theirs. Laws of nature rule OK?!!
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I was thinking of a bumper sticker, "Honk if you love laws of nature!"

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I hope no one minds if I cross-post this -- I've posted a swap thread for non-religious sympathy cards. I was in a swap recently for condolence cards, and the ones I got back were more religious than I'm comfortable sending, so I thought I'd see if anyone else was interested in secular expressions of sympathy. I posted it earlier today, but so far there haven't been any takers. I thought I might find some interested parties here. Please note that if you haven't swapped recently, you'll have to join the swap group to post in the thread, but if I could figure out how to do it, anybody can!
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I hope no one minds if I cross-post this -- I've posted a swap thread for non-religious sympathy cards. I was in a swap recently for condolence cards, and the ones I got back were more religious than I'm comfortable sending, so I thought I'd see if anyone else was interested in secular expressions of sympathy. I posted it earlier today, but so far there haven't been any takers. I thought I might find some interested parties here. Please note that if you haven't swapped recently, you'll have to join the swap group to post in the thread, but if I could figure out how to do it, anybody can!
Thanks for cross-posting. I would not have spotted it as I rarely cruise the swap forum. I signed up!
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Just a fat-bottomed girl de-lurking to mention that I just dropped by the Papertrey Blog hop because I thought it was a great idea.

Was curious about one particular person, checked it out and yep, not surprised.
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Ooops, also wanted to say:

a) my head exploded and
b) have you really not met my friend Mr/Ms Google?
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Just a fat-bottomed girl de-lurking to mention that I just dropped by the Papertrey Blog hop because I thought it was a great idea.

Was curious about one particular person, checked it out and yep, not surprised.
Really makes me sad

Anyone else checked it out?
I'm confused. Are you asking if people on this thread are sad that someone mentioned on her blog that she's an atheist? I'm more on the side of "You go, girl!" for her being honest about how she feels.
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ok I need a link. I don't follow any blogs. I only have enough energy o follow my two kids around
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I'm confused. Are you asking if people on this thread are sad that someone mentioned on her blog that she's an atheist? I'm more on the side of "You go, girl!" for her being honest about how she feels.

Oops, sorry, I guess I was wayyyy too cryptic. I didn't want to violate the TOS here, and I guess I ended up being too vague.

Is there a link to someone who said they are an atheist. What number?

I was referring to number 32. I just felt it was really crappy that someone chose to totally disregard the whole spirit of the hop and additionally, post another comment elsewhere saying that obviously she only knows what she grew up with.

Um, hello Google? Hello internet? Hello year 2010.

Was that a little clearer?
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Oops, sorry, I guess I was wayyyy too cryptic. I didn't want to violate the TOS here, and I guess I ended up being too vague.

Is there a link to someone who said they are an atheist. What number?

I was referring to number 32. I just felt it was really crappy that someone chose to totally disregard the whole spirit of the hop and additionally, post another comment elsewhere saying that obviously she only knows what she grew up with.

Um, hello Google? Hello internet? Hello year 2010.

Was that a little clearer?
Oh! That makes so much more sense now. I was cryptic, too. My research was to see if you had posted in this thread before today, and when I saw you hadn't, to assume that you might be coming in here to bait us. And that by mentioning Google, you meant that her post could easily be found by people in the future. I'm very sorry that I made that assumption.

I posted the link to the other blog in my last reply. I agree with you completely about the one you mentioned - very little regard for anyone else's traditions.
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I think I have posted in this thread and certainly in part one. I'm a very bad lurker person.

My mention of Google was simply that hey, if you don't know something Mr/Ms Google is there to help.

I understand not having a particular stamp for a holiday, but with a little research and creativity, I bet pretty much everyone could come up with something in their existing stamps.

I just needed to vent.
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Old 10-25-2010, 07:14 PM   #680
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LOL, yup you have 9 posts. To find out quickly, one can go to the main forum page for this forum, and click on the "number of posts" and a box pops up with everyone's name and how many posts they have.

I am the biggest blabbermouth with 123 posts - I guess this will be 124.
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