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Old 05-29-2013, 06:41 PM   #6721
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Yes. Although there are a couple of ways to do it. My BFF is an artist. She and her DH live on very little. I had friends who went on to get their PhDs while a couple of us dropped out of the program. The ones of us who dropped have homes and way more stability and roots. The ones who continued on have spent years wrapped up in something they passionately love, and in teaching. I think all our choices are trade-offs, but the more consciously we choose what to trade, the happier we tend to feel about our choices.

I love art and creating but I also passionately love having a house and making a space full of color where dogs and cats and friends are always welcome. For me it's worth dealing with corporate America and not being a potter. For now at least... who knows what the choices will look like in 10 years or 20?
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Marge I think Wrose and I had the exact same reaction... LOL!
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Speaking of stuffed animals, I am SO up past my bedtime. Don't know why but I just can't get sleepy.

Which is weird.

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Maybe I will go upstairs and pretend I want to hang out with the ZZZZZs.

G'night y'all. Sweet dreams.
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If someone had told me at 16 that I'd wind up living here, I would have suggested rehab for their serious drug problem. Ooops...
It's funny I don't thing of you as a New Yorker. I think of you as a person who lives in a place that is always that soft sunny sunsetting color with water somewhere. Not state specific more like state of mind specific.
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If I type and type and type some more and talk about my hot coworkers and donuts and how much I walk and that I'm still $800 shy of qualifying this year then I type some more and finish this sentence. Then I think I've said enough and finish this sentence.

So then I get a new idea and start a new paragraph but a lazy paragraph with no indentation. so what happens then?
Okay pay attention. I'm just typing a paragraph here after quoting you. I could type a lot, I'm a very fast typist, but it would just be filler anyway. And the paragraph itself seems unrelated to the issue. Oh and no indenting, that has nothing to do with it either. I'm going to put one space between my paragraphs just like you did up above. Right?


Okay new paragraph, just one space there ^ to separate my paragraphs, but I'm assuming, since I quoted you, that it will show up with two blank lines and not just one. I won't bother editing, so you can see.
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Yep, two blank lines appeared, not one. *sigh*

Chrome.
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Also note in that last one that there are not two spaces because - I didn't quote anyone!
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I don't remember if it'll do it if I used the more advanced reply, in other words, I clicked the Reply button instead of the Quick Reply button. So we'll test it out now. This is the first paragraph.

And here's the second with just one blank line between the paragraphs. Once I finish it, and post, we can see if it gave me an extra one.
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Nope! Only quoting someone causes it.
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I still can't get over the cows right up the hill from you!

Places are very strange, with the pull they can have on people--to stay, to go, to keep coming back.
I do so love the cows on the hill! I love living just a couple blocks from what I call "the edge of Silicon Valley." I can take that road for a little while and there are just cows and horses on one side, housing on the other, and a view of the whole valley, including the new 49ers stadium. I can see the Bay too, from some spots, and I can even see the southernmost bridge over the bay if it's a clear day. I like that I know there are small deer in the area, and wild turkeys and coyotes; but I love the kind of yin yang feeling that there's wildness on one side of me and dense humanity with so much to offer on the other.


I think that might be what attracts a lot of people to this particular area. I'm about an hour's drive from the ocean and about three hours to being in snow in the winter. I know parts of Virginia are the same, and I can see the attraction there too. Mountains on one side, ocean on the other. Where I grew up, the mountains were old and not very wild and the ocean was far away. We had a lot of lakes and I guess a lot of people love the area, and it's fine, but I didn't want to stay there.
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Speaking of stuffed animals, I am SO up past my bedtime. Don't know why but I just can't get sleepy.

Which is weird.

Gaaaa.
You don't know why, huh.
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What's up PH, kids being fun on their early days home for the summer? Time to get out the whip??
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Yep, two blank lines appeared, not one. *sigh*

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Speaking of whips, where's Char?

She promised to come back.

I gave her a whole day (lol) to get situated.

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No. I wish it were that simple, LOL. Our last day of school is June 7.

Just a bunch of little stuff getting to me... like learning yesterday around noon that I was supposed to do something, and spending the afternoon and evening working on the stuff, and then when I was done, finding out the person who asked me to do it did the work her own way (and not in a way I would have preferred).

Today I found a YouTube video of one of last season's marching band performances - recorded and uploaded by a band fanatic who graduated from our school, whose husband graduated from our school, and whose only child graduated from our school two years ago. (In other words - the woman has no family ties to the band or the school any longer.) Since DH is the "official" videographer for the band, and the band teacher knows that we're always planning to record the band events and put them on the band's YouTube channel, it's hard to believe that anyone affiliated with the band asked this woman to travel the 90 minutes to the competition to record the event. So I was torn between feeling like this woman was kind of stalking the band, and wanting to tell her to cut the damn cord already.

And the one naughty bunny has been nibbling in the garden again. Which means I'll be spraying Liquid Fence again tomorrow.
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ALright clothes in the dryer. I'm outta here. PH people are freaks. 'nuff said
oh and speaking of Char...where is that freak?
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I believe the Pondie that started the Pond has spent her whole life in about a half mile area, as far as living. I have a friend out here who lives about a mile from where she grew up. Always has been there.

I had the drive to leave home, not everyone does, and I respect that. Some people can't get out, even if they want to, generally because of family circumstances beyond their control. So I was lucky, I got to leave, as I wanted to.

i've lived so many places - i'm not really sure where "home" is....

The longest house I ever lived in so far is the one that I'm in right now. We've been here 5.5 years... Now I did live in the Orange area for a total of 8 years - but that was 3 separate houses...

My mother has lived in the same house since I was a junior in high school so that is her "home". But I only lived there 2 years...

I know we've moved a lot for my girls and DD wants to put down some roots - but I think I've given her enough wanderlust to travel the world and see new and exciting things. We were talking about an exchange program just tonight where we'd take a French student for 3 weeks this summer and then she'd go next summer... and/or a program with the State Department where she'd go to Jordan for 2 months and learn Farsi next summer...

She wants to see the world... And I love that.
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Except weather. Those of us who cannot tolerate heat are allowed to dismiss all hot areas, and the heat worshipers among us are allowed to dismiss areas where temps are lower than 70 (even though I still think they're nuts ).
i cannot begin to tell you how much i loved spending 4 days in Mexico where the temp was in the mid 80s and there was NO - ABSOLUTELY NONE - NADA - NIL - NEIN - ZERO air conditioner...

it was HEAVEN!

Of course the mid 50 nights about froze me out... but at least i was able to put on some clothes and a blanket and was okay... if the people i was with would have allowed a fire then i really would have been in total paradise... but c'est la vie.
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No. I wish it were that simple, LOL. Our last day of school is June 7.

Just a bunch of little stuff getting to me... like learning yesterday around noon that I was supposed to do something, and spending the afternoon and evening working on the stuff, and then when I was done, finding out the person who asked me to do it did the work her own way (and not in a way I would have preferred).

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And the one naughty bunny has been nibbling in the garden again. Which means I'll be spraying Liquid Fence again tomorrow.
Oh I'm sorry, lots of reasons to be crabby at stoopid people. Sorry.


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oh and speaking of Char...where is that freak?
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Yep, two blank lines appeared, not one. *sigh*

Chrome.
Is it really only when I quote someone?

I've never connected the two.


In fact, I think I wrote below without quoting anyone: Nobody Puts Pondies in a Binder


I did use a smiley, and the only double-line-space is after the smiley.


But now maybe I jinxed this post by putting in a link, LOL.
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And V, in that last post I typed the period, one return/enter, then a second return/enter to get (hopefully!) a single space separating my paragraphs.

I didn't try to indent. And when I've tried to just do period/enter I don't get a line-space between the paragraphs - it just continues as another line of the same period.


In my next post I will try to tab and see what happens then! I've never tried that before.
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Here's a paragraph I'm writing without quoting.

Period/return twice and here's a new paragraph.


Period/return twice and here's another.


Nope, can't tab - that takes me to the next field (trackbacks).
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So for me it looks like it's every double-return paragraph after the first one...

And I'm doing nothing differently in my typing whatsoever.


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i've lived so many places - i'm not really sure where "home" is....

The longest house I ever lived in so far is the one that I'm in right now. We've been here 5.5 years... Now I did live in the Orange area for a total of 8 years - but that was 3 separate houses...

My mother has lived in the same house since I was a junior in high school so that is her "home". But I only lived there 2 years...

I know we've moved a lot for my girls and DD wants to put down some roots - but I think I've given her enough wanderlust to travel the world and see new and exciting things. We were talking about an exchange program just tonight where we'd take a French student for 3 weeks this summer and then she'd go next summer... and/or a program with the State Department where she'd go to Jordan for 2 months and learn Farsi next summer...

She wants to see the world... And I love that.
Wow! That is pretty cool. So many influences. The closest I came to anything like that was that I don't think I spent more than a year in any apartment in Atlanta. Sometimes only six months. I did love so many things about Atlanta.
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So for me it looks like it's every double-return paragraph after the first one...

And I'm doing nothing differently in my typing whatsoever.


Chrome. Windows7.
I noticed in a post earlier, maybe in CE, that wasn't a quote, and I got one extra line between the first two paragraphs and two between the rest of them, I think using the Reply button (as opposed to quick reply).


Windows 7 and Chrome here too.


It does seem to always do it when we quote, though.
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I tend to edit it when the post looks way too long - makes it look better. lol
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E, I'm glad you enjoyed your stay, being warm and all.
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It's funny I don't thing of you as a New Yorker. I think of you as a person who lives in a place that is always that soft sunny sunsetting color with water somewhere. Not state specific more like state of mind specific.
Ruh-roh... does this mean I've posted too many sunrise pictures of the pond out back on FB? LOL
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:12 AM   #6754
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I do so love the cows on the hill! I love living just a couple blocks from what I call "the edge of Silicon Valley." I can take that road for a little while and there are just cows and horses on one side, housing on the other, and a view of the whole valley, including the new 49ers stadium. I can see the Bay too, from some spots, and I can even see the southernmost bridge over the bay if it's a clear day. I like that I know there are small deer in the area, and wild turkeys and coyotes; but I love the kind of yin yang feeling that there's wildness on one side of me and dense humanity with so much to offer on the other.

I think that might be what attracts a lot of people to this particular area. I'm about an hour's drive from the ocean and about three hours to being in snow in the winter. I know parts of Virginia are the same, and I can see the attraction there too. Mountains on one side, ocean on the other. Where I grew up, the mountains were old and not very wild and the ocean was far away. We had a lot of lakes and I guess a lot of people love the area, and it's fine, but I didn't want to stay there.
I loved it when you'd drive that way home from somewhere when I visited! Can't wait to introduce my niece to the cows next year! She's getting really excited about the trip--and I guess we're getting close to the 12-month countdown!
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You don't know why, huh.
Yeah, ok, I'm full of... something...
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click on the craig dietz bit too.
Holy cow. Those are some fine looking oops I mean clearly very talented and dedicated swimmers! I can haz swimmer personz nao?
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No. I wish it were that simple, LOL. Our last day of school is June 7.

Just a bunch of little stuff getting to me... like learning yesterday around noon that I was supposed to do something, and spending the afternoon and evening working on the stuff, and then when I was done, finding out the person who asked me to do it did the work her own way (and not in a way I would have preferred).

Today I found a YouTube video of one of last season's marching band performances - recorded and uploaded by a band fanatic who graduated from our school, whose husband graduated from our school, and whose only child graduated from our school two years ago. (In other words - the woman has no family ties to the band or the school any longer.) Since DH is the "official" videographer for the band, and the band teacher knows that we're always planning to record the band events and put them on the band's YouTube channel, it's hard to believe that anyone affiliated with the band asked this woman to travel the 90 minutes to the competition to record the event. So I was torn between feeling like this woman was kind of stalking the band, and wanting to tell her to cut the damn cord already.

And the one naughty bunny has been nibbling in the garden again. Which means I'll be spraying Liquid Fence again tomorrow.
Awww... (((HUGS))) PH. Days like that just bite.

And stalker chick... yeah. Very nice of her to make the trip and from everything you've said about the band and your own happiness about participating, I can understand the generous impulse and maybe missing the experience behind it. But still a little stalky. Like an artichoke.
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i've lived so many places - i'm not really sure where "home" is....

The longest house I ever lived in so far is the one that I'm in right now. We've been here 5.5 years... Now I did live in the Orange area for a total of 8 years - but that was 3 separate houses...

My mother has lived in the same house since I was a junior in high school so that is her "home". But I only lived there 2 years...

I know we've moved a lot for my girls and DD wants to put down some roots - but I think I've given her enough wanderlust to travel the world and see new and exciting things. We were talking about an exchange program just tonight where we'd take a French student for 3 weeks this summer and then she'd go next summer... and/or a program with the State Department where she'd go to Jordan for 2 months and learn Farsi next summer...

She wants to see the world... And I love that.
That's so amazing, E.

Are you going to do the exchange this summer? Learning Farsi in Jordan sounds pretty amazing. Heck, I'd love to do it and I'm a bit past the high school stage...

The roots thing must be hard. It's funny how we've all been talking about it the last few days. I've had a couple of pretty intense conversations with folks IRL the last few days too about all those travel/staying/exploring/rooting issues. It's weird because one person might thrive on one or some combination and another person might need or want something entirely different. And all those choices have their ups and downs.

But I have to admit, if I'd had children, I would have been excited if they wanted to see the world, too. There's so much out there and I think walking through a place--smelling the salt or spruce in the air, or the dust of a city or feeling that desert heat and austere spare life, hearing the birds or traffic or feeling that motor revving before a plane hurtles itself down the runway and then lifts off, that sense of time and place suspended--I think it all makes a place a part of you. There's nothing else like it.
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Oh and BTW y'all need jobs testing software, LOL.

I'm with Marge--let's start by getting the PC site fixed!

Speaking of which, heigh ho, heigh ho...
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My dad will turn 89 soon, and he's lived all his life within 2 or 3 miles of where he was born.

But he enjoyed farming, first along with his father and then on his own. So he stayed where he had good farmland. Then when he finally retired from farming, he didn't have a desire to leave the area. (Plus he'd occasionally help the man who rented the fields from him, before he and Mom moved to their new house.)

He did say that after Pearl Harbor was bombed, he would have liked to have joined the Navy - partly to defend our country and partly to see more of the world. But because he was already working on the farm, he was given an exemption from the draft.

Mom's parents moved around a few times when she was young, but she's always lived in the same county. Her brother still lives on the same site where their family settled when Mom was 9. (Different house, but same land.) WWII had ended by the time my uncle graduated high school, but he served a few years in Korea. He helped my grandfather some on the farm, but it was never his primary occupation.

After helping Dad with baling straw and hoeing peanuts, I knew I didn't want to settle down on a farm after I was done with school.
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