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Old 04-20-2013, 08:40 PM   #5881
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Glad you're getting things cleaned up Marge. Hope you get a good nights sleep in your toasty house.
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It's weird because I also find all that stuff in Game of Thrones very offensive but also feel strongly that we need to understand and acknowledge that it's how most of the Western AND Eastern world has viewed women for pretty much all of human history.

I think for me, even although it's fiction, I feel as though it's important for women to understand what we've had to fight, and how insidious and enduring it remains. Although at the same time I worry about all the guy gamer-types who watch it. I've heard that women in online gaming and fantasy communities are not often treated much better than they are in Game of Thrones.

In some ways I think this is WAY more realistic than a lot of the damsel-in-distress movies out of Hollywood or fairy princess stuff from Disney, for all that it's also fiction. I guess I feel like that brutal and in-your-face a portrayal matters if it makes people talk about the implications of a lot of way-too-common attitudes.
Yeah I'd rather read a history book. I don't know that this show is getting people talking about how women were treated. It's just a good story. I've always been one to read novels about rebellious women.......
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Bo!!! How are you?

It's been crazy on this end too.
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OK, somy Aunt Bee just died. Funeral is Monday in St Louis.

The uncle and aunt that recently died were from my Dad's side of the family in PA. There is only one aunt-in-law left on that side, she had been married to my Dad's youngest brother.

The aunt who just died this week was my Mom's middle sister. Now there is nobody left on her St Louis side.

A generation has passed.
Oh Marge. I'm so very, very sorry to hear.

My heart goes out to you. That's so many people you love, and whose lives framed yours and your sisters', to lose in such a short time.
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It's been a long time since I've been an actively posting pondie, but I should have a bit more time now because...I successfully defended my dissertation! I'm going to be Dr. trefoil in May. Hurray!

I hope all of you are doing well and hope to be able to do a better job of keeping up with your lives.
Christine!!!

CONGRATULATIONS Dr Trefoil!!! I'm so excited for you!!!
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No you're not. I don't have one. Of course I did but then I used it at our host meet and bumped the table I set it upon. At that point, it went crashing to the floor and shattered into a million pieces.

So now I don't have one.
ACK.

My sister told me I could have our Mom's old crockpot from the 1970s because she's scared to leave it on when she's not home given how old it is.

I'm not sure I'm entirely ready to conduct experiments with the electrical soundness of 40 year old appliances using my home and fuzzy roommates... Although it's an orange color that would look great in my kitchen. Maybe I could just use it to make food or soup on winter weekends when I'm home all day. Given that that current crockpots are manufactured in the land of 'consumer and worker safety? We don' need no stinkin' consumer and worker safety...' it might be 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
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So Monday I get to participate in a "Learning Walk"...

All the math specialists in the district and the Assistant Sup of Curriculum and Instruction are coming to see how much I rock on Monday and to "learn" from me... They are evaluating me and one of the other pre-AP teachers...

Can't wait! lol!
I'm sure your principal will enjoy every moment!
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Well hell! And I just went and typed a long ole update in the old thread.
I'm SO excited for Bella. My heart goes out to your students. That's got to be so hard to be so close and yet have so little authority to act or help.

Please don't underestimate how much your being there means, though. I have a home room teacher and an English and History teacher I still remember with so much gratitude and warmth 35 years later. Your post and so many of E's make me want to google-stalk them and let them know how much I remember, and what a difference it made in a pretty relentlessly horrible time.
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DD got a FURminator and used it on Pippin. Now she's got enough fur for another Corgi!

I'll see if I can get a pic here.
If DD knows anyone who spins dog hair into wool and they charge less than my sister's friends in CT I might have to start saving Sonny's fur again, LOL.

I think it would be hilarious to have a sweater from the herding dog instead of the sheep!
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Wait 'til she gets to lattice multiplication. That stuff drives.me.nuts when I'm subbing.
This makes me glad I got to learn math back in the stone age when we just had to count the rocks...

Although I love that Reese's ad where the kid has two Reese's cups and buddy eats two. How many years before kid speaks to buddy again?
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And it needs to be realized that one approach does not necessarily work for an entire classroom of students. If a particular one doesn't seem to be clicking with kids, the teacher should not be hesitant about trying a different approach.
Oddly enough I think that's equally true for managing people.
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So true.

And right now, we are making a world that caters to extroverts.

All this group learning and group projects. It's one thing to learn to work with people, it's quite another to not give down time to the thinkers.
Amen to that. While I think it's great that we've come so far in appreciating diversity in terms of background, appearance, religion, who people love, etc, it will be a happy day when we begin to work just as hard to acknowledge and appreciate diversity in learning and problem-solving approaches.
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Jane still needs to send you Subaru article on Door county, which Jane found and copied, only to have some roaming pile of paperwork assimilate immediately. Apparently resistance was futile.
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I banished Bella and her friends from the house and it cracks me up to pretend not to see them as they army crawl along the edge of the living room and sneak up the stairs.

From the giggling I heard, it amuses them too. They better have career plans that don't involve stealth and camouflage.
What, you mean like managing other peoples' IRAs on Wall Street?

Pay no attention to those mortgage-backed securities, little investor... They're 100% risk-free, even if the investment side of the institution is writing memos about dumping them before they tank...
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Holy cow, what a cute puppy this is. Let me know if you don't want to see any more Pippin pics!!!
What is this 'don't want to see any more Pippin pics' of which you speak??

Pippin... uuuuuusssee the FORCE, young padwan! Omigoat most adorable corgi EVARRRR!!!!
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We had a wowzer of a thunderstorm last night, around midnight.

Shadow scared me to death -- woke me up with his very loud barking. He always barks back at thunder, I guess to see who can be loudest?
We have coyotes in the area. I've been sleeping with the windows open. One night they came by and howled from the dam side of the pond. Sonny woke me up defending us. Um... Good dog now go back to sleep, k?

Molly just tries to call inside my rib cage through my armpit, poor kid. Trainer said if thunderstorms freak them out, best thing to do is be very nonchalant about it. Evidently attempts to calm them down just reinforce their anxiety that something very worrisome is occurring. I have to admit this has helped with Molly. I've started telling her, 'yup, pretty loud, but we've got this. Come on sweetie, back to sleep,' in the same voice I use when telling them it's time for doggle breakfast.
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So hey. Today is the DH's birthday. He's basically been a turd all weekend. But we did do some fun things. Bocce today in the morning then lunch at the loudest most crowded spot in town. I think I did relatively well by ordering a bunless turkey burger and side salad and combining it all. It was tasty and I hope decent in calories.
I've been shopping a little here and there for work clothes. Its' amazing how good I look in some things now. I weigh in tomorrow. I'm almost down 25 pounds. Almost to what my license says from before kids and I wasn't lying then.
GO V!!!!

Glad to hear you sounding so busy.

Sorry to hear about digestive by-productlike behavior but SO excited that you're rocking the work clothes!
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Got home safely from St Louis about an hour ago.

Tuckered out.
Welcome home Marge. I imagine the tuckered out must be as much emotional as from the driving.
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Ack. Cacti make pollen?

I guess they'd have to, wouldn't they? I hope the wind's died down by now.
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Zak would make every attempt to pee on any suitcase he ever saw, arriving or departing. He did not like it when his humans travelled.
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Wrose, glad your mom's surgery went well.

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I can see where you are coming from, I really do.

I've spent the past year working on both a district and state wide level in the education field recognizing strategies that will improve student learning. The number one priority is to create "career and college ready" students. The biggest complaint among prospective employers??? Unable to work in a group setting efficiently. Prospective employers rated that more important than educational background or previous work experience.

While I totally understand that group time is not for everyone, its essential if we are going to prepare students for the real world. Employers do not adjust their expectations to meet employee needs very often. In a nation like ours, you simply find an employee that is a better fit. I have a child who does not do well in groups at all and prefers to be alone almost always. School is going to be a huge challenge for him. My oldest hates group work, not because she prefers to fly solo like DS2, but because she feels like she is always paired with people who do not see the value in working as hard as she does. So, her options are to take on a much heavier work load than the other group participants or accept the grade they all agree is ok. It blows. I'm not gonna lie. They know she will do the work and they all get the A because of it. While I think this scenario is completely unfair, its is exactly how it plays out in the work force too. Real life scenarios.

It is a incredibly difficult to meet the delicate balance needed to prepare students for college and careers. All info we are getting right now shows that group work will become a major component of core curriculum, not just in KY but across the nation.
Holy cow Bo.

Your DD's group work dilemma very much describes a situation we're dealing with at work at the moment.

It actually makes me think of a Happy Bunny magnet I have that says, 'School prepares you for the real world. Which also sucks.' Collaboration is one thing. Asking for help with something that's difficult, the same. Expecting other people to do the work while you sit around playing with your favorite electronic device all day in the office, um, no, please do not ask me to cover your posterior for that, let alone DO the work for you.
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I have been planning a weekend trip(just an overnighter) for my friends and I for several months now. We leave Saturday morning at 7am. I am pretty excited! We are touring the Kentucky Bourbon Trail, a driving trail designed to show off the bourbon distilleries and beautiful scenery in Kentucky. Kentucky Bourbon Trail - Where the Spirit Leads You

I've planned the entire trip...we have a 15 passenger van and a paid driver(wanted to go with a party bus, but it was $3250 even with my steep-almost 1500-family discount). So, we went with a van and paid driver instead. We will visit four distilleries on Saturday and the remaining two on Sunday. We hired the driver bc none of us wanted to be the DD and each distillery has sampling after the tours. We will kick off with a shot of bourbon(yes, at 7am) and begin touring. So, roughly 18-20oz of bourbon over a ten hour period. No one needs to be driving on that. Better safe than sorry! We're spending the night in Louisville and hanging on Fourth Street Live! for the night. Its going to be absolutely exhausting, but I know we will have a great time. Eight couples, age ranges from 21-53! Fun times. One of the guys is dating a younger woman, the 21 year old. They went to Puerto Rico with us. We joked that he had to get written consent from her father in order to take her out of the country. It is truly hilarious. Luckily, they are good sports.

We really cannot afford the trip, but we paid for everything other than food back in January. Thank goodness! Otherwise, we wouldn't be going. So, I'm looking forward to relaxing and exciting weekend of partying with great friends. I'm sure I will have a few stories and pics to share.
That sounds like an amazing (and fun!) trip!!! I hope you all had an amazing and great time!
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I do know about group work and employers - I'm reading Quiet by Susan Cain, and seriously hoping it has an impact on people making these decisions. We are simply forcing everyone into the same mold.

Yes we should learn to work with groups but not to the exclusion of all else. The book is fascinating. Also reading The Introvert Advantage: How to thrive in an Extrovert World, by Mart Olsen Laney, Psy.D.

It seems like every other page, I find myself going, "Oh so THAT's what it is!" Insights all along the way. Our society has gone from one that values quiet thought and character to one that values only those who can get up in front and "shake their booty" or whatever.

Here's a link to Quiet,

Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking: Susan Cain: 0030788707778: Amazon.com: Books

and here's a link to an interesting article by Leonard Pitts, a columnist for the Miami Herald.

Leonard Pitts: For introverts, working alone works best - Leonard Pitts Jr. - MiamiHerald.com

It's funny, I read this article before I got these books, and when he starts off saying that Yahoo's decision is not a women's issue, I remember thinking, why would anyone think it was a women's issue? Duh, because working moms who were working from home would no longer be able to do so. But I know the Yahoo campus out here, and I know traffic, and I was thinking, holy cow, people are going to lose a couple hours a day traveling now, in traffic! I never even thought about the problem with those having small children at home.

So while I agree with your points, I'm hoping we can change it. It shouldn't be necessary for everyone to be forced to be an extrovert.

I personally have kind of realized that I'm an introvert AND I'm shy. Apparently being an introvert has nothing to do with the way my body is not under my control when I'm forced to speak in public (which I manage to avoid pretty well). That's pure shyness.

And yes, I always hated group work projects for my kids for the same reasons you do. But I can understand SOME group projects having to be done. I just don't agree that it has to be that way all the time.
You know, I'm fine with people having to learn how to work in groups and respect the process SO LONG AS they're also equally respected to learn how to work on their own and respect that process too.

And so far as work environments go, I think good managers respect those differences and learn to manage and allocate the work load so that stuff gets done but the folks doing it have a chance to shine in their strengths. If someone doesn't get that some people shine doing stuff quietly behind the scenes, it's their job not only to give that person the opportunity but to see that they get the credit.

Of course I also think we should have world peace... if you're going to have delusions I guess at least try to have good ones, huh?
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It must be bittersweet for those of you with kids going to high school this year. Are your kids excited about going to high school?
I think it must be... It must feel so amazing to see them get ready to move into their own lives more but at the same time such a jarring transition too.

Small humans are so adorable, especially during those sunny, cuddly kid years. It must be so hard to see those years move from the daily routine of the road into the rear view mirror.
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We have coyotes in the area. I've been sleeping with the windows open. One night they came by and howled from the dam side of the pond.
I read this first as that the coyotes were so close, right at the "darn" side of the pond. But you actually meant the dam side, the side where the dam is!


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I read this first as that the coyotes were so close, right at the "darn" side of the pond. But you actually meant the dam side, the side where the dam is!


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I read it exactly the same way!
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I'm glad the bees are gone, Karen!!!
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My sister told me I could have our Mom's old crockpot from the 1970s because she's scared to leave it on when she's not home given how old it is.

I'm not sure I'm entirely ready to conduct experiments with the electrical soundness of 40 year old appliances using my home and fuzzy roommates... Although it's an orange color that would look great in my kitchen. Maybe I could just use it to make food or soup on winter weekends when I'm home all day. Given that that current crockpots are manufactured in the land of 'consumer and worker safety? We don' need no stinkin' consumer and worker safety...' it might be 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.

In other words, "I'm worried the crock pot could burn up my home, so Jane, you can have it."

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It actually makes me think of a Happy Bunny magnet I have that says, 'School prepares you for the real world. Which also sucks.' Collaboration is one thing. Asking for help with something that's difficult, the same. Expecting other people to do the work while you sit around playing with your favorite electronic device all day in the office, um, no, please do not ask me to cover your posterior for that, let alone DO the work for you.

Nicely said.

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Small humans are so adorable, especially during those sunny, cuddly kid years.
Until they have a very large and smelly toilet training accident, or they puke down your back.

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I read this first as that the coyotes were so close, right at the "darn" side of the pond. But you actually meant the dam side, the side where the dam is!


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Karen and I are in the same boat!
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Calling it quits with the basement cleanup for today.

It's dry and sanitary, but still a mess. I'll organize it after the retreat.


Got my clothes packed, stamping supplies packed (that was fun given my stamp room is a disaster area).


Leaving early morning with Trena.


I won't be online till later on Friday. Be good!
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My sister told me I could have our Mom's old crockpot from the 1970s because she's scared to leave it on when she's not home given how old it is.

I'm not sure I'm entirely ready to conduct experiments with the electrical soundness of 40 year old appliances using my home and fuzzy roommates... Although it's an orange color that would look great in my kitchen. Maybe I could just use it to make food or soup on winter weekends when I'm home all day. Given that that current crockpots are manufactured in the land of 'consumer and worker safety? We don' need no stinkin' consumer and worker safety...' it might be 6 of one, half a dozen of the other.
I'm still using my mom's from the 70s, Jane - the electrics seem just fine.

To avoid furry mishaps (though none of mine have bothered it at all) you could set it up in the garage.


One thing I've heard is that the low on old crockpots is a lot lower than that of new crockpots so I never start chicken on low. I'm not as worried about beef b/c I usually brown that before cooking which gives the interior temp a chance to start coming up. But giving meat an hour on high before turning to low (which is in many new recipes) is perhaps more important for the old ones than the new ones, and less convenient...
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Calling it quits with the basement cleanup for today.
I'm so sorry about the flooding... I'm amazed you've made progress so quickly! Have fun on your retreat
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One crockpot recipe I use on long days is this:This Spud?s For You: Crockpot Potatoes


Coming home to baked potatoes w/o having to bake them for an hour is nice, and the kids love them with chili, cheese, etc., for an easy meal.
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