Well, we did it! Or better yet, he did it. We bought a 2013 Dodge van. BAsic model, with the exception that he wanted roof racks on it. We have a Ford Van and we really wanted something new and different, but they just weren't comfortable enough, so we chose the van again. But it is spanking new and we pick it up tomorrow. And we are not paying through the nose, even tho I don't like another car payment again. Last one for us, I would think.