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Old 11-05-2011, 01:42 PM   #1  
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I have made rosettes by hand with my Scor-Pal, but I thought the Tim Holtz Rosette die would be so much faster.

First it doesn't "score" lines they are little perforations. I saw a video where he used Tissue tape on the back to keep the score/perforation lines from splitting when you fold the mountain/valley folds. I didn't have any tissue tape so I used some "paper tape" that is for bandages. It worked fine and folded easily.

But after I made the rosette the perforations show on all of the mountain folds.
I sponged the tops of the mountain folds but is still doesn't look as good as my hand made ones.
I have a regular size crease pad and tried that and it still cuts the paper.
Has anyone figured out a better way to use this die?

If not I will make my future rosettes by hand.
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OOPS that should have said "Tim" Holtz not "Time " Holtz . Sorry :(
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I use my TH Rosette dies (large & small) a lot. The secret I have found is to not put the die straight on the plates, I angle it diagonally. I don't have an issue with the paper cutting through.
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How are you going through on an angle. The die is 12" long and I had to use my 13" cutting plates and the long narrow platform .
Even when I set the front upper edge as close as possible to the right side of the machine bed it still won't angle much. I just tried it and it cut the score lines again.

I tried Designer paper and card stock. The die cuts through both. I put paper surgical tape on the back to stop the score/perforations lines from splitting. With out the paper tape the folds split and separate when I fold.
But the perforations still show on the top of the mountain folds.


Does your die make score lines? Mine makes perforation lines for the folds .
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iamvics I am using a BigShot. What machine are you using?
My TH rosette die won't fit straight or diagonal on the regular BigShot cutting plates. It is too long
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iamvics I am using a BigShot. What machine are you using?
My TH rosette die won't fit straight or diagonal on the regular BigShot cutting plates. It is too long
Here's some pics of how I set the die on my plate and some finishe rosettes. I use a Cuttlebug.
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Aha! Thanks!
You are using the long CB plates. I just tried them and it WILL fit on the diagonal of the long plates.
The score/perforation lines didn't cut all the way through, as they did on BigShot , but I can still see the perforation marks on the top of my ( and your) mountain folds.
At least when using the CB you don't need to put tape on the back before you fold the mountain/valley folds.

I am still not thrilled with the finished appearance of these rosettes .
I Appreciate your help !
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I am still not thrilled with the finished appearance of these rosettes .


Since they're the only ones I've ever made, I guess I'm used to them.
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I have made mine by hand until now.
Cut a strip of 11" or 12" paper or cardstock about 1 & 1/2" wide
Punch one side with a paper punch
I have use the regular SU scallop punch; the scallop trim punch or the pinking hearts punch along one side.
Then I score between the scallops.
Mountain/Valley fold and Scor-tape the ends together.
Punch 2 small circles and use one for the bottom and one for the top.
Assemble them the same way you do the TH rosettes

You can change the diameter of the rosette by changing the width of the paper strip.
A 1" strip ( after punching the edge) will result in a 2" rosette
A 1 & 1/2" strip ( after punching the edge ) will result in a 3" rosette and so on
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I am not crazy about the TH rosette die either :(
I have noticed that the large one isn't as bad as the small one. I will try doing it at an angle and see if that helps.
I don't mind the score lines showing, I just don't like the rosettes breaking apart :mad:
I have gone back to using my MS scoring board to make rosettes.
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Here's some pics of how I set the die on my plate and some finishe rosettes. I use a Cuttlebug.
You did a wonderful job!!!
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When I bought this die I didn't expect the marks for the mountain/valley folds would be perforations. I thought they would be like the Sizzix box dies where you use a crease pad and just get fold lines/marks.
This goes into the "I wish I had not bought it" ! I am glad I only bought the large one and not both.
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I wish this post was around a couple of months ago. I bought the Time Holtz rosette die thinking how easy it would be to use, since I love the look of rosettes. I got it home and realized I needed the strip cutting pad and plate. So now I ordered those and you all are right about the perforations, why would someone make it that way? And I never even knew before I could use a scor-pal or simialr to make them myself!! I agree it was an unwise choice on my part to buy it.
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I just made my first rossette by hand and was thinking I wanted the TH die but didn't want to spend the money, nor could I right now. So I am glad to read this post. I don't NEED the TH die, doing it by hand saves me money and makes great use of the tools I already have and have barely used
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Here is the tutorial from "Splitcoast Resources" that shows how to make rosettes by hand. It is called Fan Fold Flowers

Handmade Paper Flowers Tutorial for Cards Using a Fan Fold Flower Technique by Bonnie Szwalkiewicz

I believe there is another one on the Scor-Pal site, but I can't seem to find it right now.
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On TH blog today, he addressed the rossette problem.
That's why we all love Tim!
Tissue tape, as one other poster recommended is the key. And there are a lot of videos out there to show you how to make them for much cheaper than the brand name ones!
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Thanks, but I had already watched another video of TM at CHA showing that using tissue tape on the back will prevent the folds from splitting.
I used surgical "paper" tape and it kept the folds from splitting.

My annoyance is the appearance of the top of mountain folds. The perforations split the paper and even when I sponge the tops of the mountain folds they look sloppy to me.
Maybe it is just me, but I like sharp crisp folds not folds with holes in them.

Tim features a shabby style and that can have holes, smudges or faded parts on the paper. So those who love the shabby look may love this die
I also don't like distressed paper.
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Here is the tutorial from "Splitcoast Resources" that shows how to make rosettes by hand. It is called Fan Fold Flowers

Handmade Paper Flowers Tutorial for Cards Using a Fan Fold Flower Technique by Bonnie Szwalkiewicz

I believe there is another one on the Scor-Pal site, but I can't seem to find it right now.
Thank you so much for the link. I love the look with the border cut, and now I have a reason to invest in some border dies that I have been thinking about!
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